Ballistics and Planes Hitting Buildings
In my continuing quest to find examples of collisions where an object penetrates (more-or-less) indestructibly and then breaks apart once inside, I found some articles on bullet fragmentation inside bodies.
There are a few articles on this topic. For example:
Am J Forensic Med Pathol. 1998 Dec;19(4):299-302. Centerfire frangible ammunition: wounding potential and other forensic concerns.
The basic idea is that a bullet can break apart once inside the body, producing small lead fragments that can produce further damage to the tissues. The fragmentation depends very much on the type of bullet and what it hits. For instance, the bullet might hit some metal object on the outside of the body and fragment before it penetrates the body. Standard ammunition will not easily fragment inside the body, but there is "frangible" ammunition that is designed to fragment. Frangible ammo has much less penetrating power, as you might expect. Frangible ammo could be considered analogous to the plane that breaks apart after penetrating.
I have not been able to determine if frangible bullets deform or fragment at all as they first make contact with the tissue, or if this occurs only after penetration. This could possibly address the issue of the lack of plane deformation/fragmentation as it hits the tower. I'm sure there are slow motion videos/high speed photos of frangible bullets hitting targets, but I have been unable to find them.
In any case, one point to all this is that an object CAN break apart after it penetrates another object.
But the other point is the distance traveled of the bullet before it breaks apart completely-- as a function of its length.
I have a hard time seeing a fragmenting bullet going 125% of its length into a body and losing all momentum and not exiting. For example, picture a fragmenting bullet fired from a handgun hitting someone's hand from the top-- and the bullet essentially staying contained in the hand-- with only a couple of fragments exiting and with a smaller exit hole than an entrance hole.
Hard to imagine this-- right?
Yet this is what we are expected to believe happened with UA175 hitting the South WTC tower: a 160-foot long plane hitting a tower 200 feet wide, making a large silhouette-shaped entrance hole, without any pieces breaking off and with no detectable deceleration, then disintegrating, with only a few small fragments of the plane exiting, and a very small exit hole.
In other words, this:
How on earth does this conform to any earthly physics?
And how on earth do professional scientists show this with a straight face????
There are a few articles on this topic. For example:
Am J Forensic Med Pathol. 1998 Dec;19(4):299-302. Centerfire frangible ammunition: wounding potential and other forensic concerns.
The basic idea is that a bullet can break apart once inside the body, producing small lead fragments that can produce further damage to the tissues. The fragmentation depends very much on the type of bullet and what it hits. For instance, the bullet might hit some metal object on the outside of the body and fragment before it penetrates the body. Standard ammunition will not easily fragment inside the body, but there is "frangible" ammunition that is designed to fragment. Frangible ammo has much less penetrating power, as you might expect. Frangible ammo could be considered analogous to the plane that breaks apart after penetrating.
I have not been able to determine if frangible bullets deform or fragment at all as they first make contact with the tissue, or if this occurs only after penetration. This could possibly address the issue of the lack of plane deformation/fragmentation as it hits the tower. I'm sure there are slow motion videos/high speed photos of frangible bullets hitting targets, but I have been unable to find them.
In any case, one point to all this is that an object CAN break apart after it penetrates another object.
But the other point is the distance traveled of the bullet before it breaks apart completely-- as a function of its length.
I have a hard time seeing a fragmenting bullet going 125% of its length into a body and losing all momentum and not exiting. For example, picture a fragmenting bullet fired from a handgun hitting someone's hand from the top-- and the bullet essentially staying contained in the hand-- with only a couple of fragments exiting and with a smaller exit hole than an entrance hole.
Hard to imagine this-- right?
Yet this is what we are expected to believe happened with UA175 hitting the South WTC tower: a 160-foot long plane hitting a tower 200 feet wide, making a large silhouette-shaped entrance hole, without any pieces breaking off and with no detectable deceleration, then disintegrating, with only a few small fragments of the plane exiting, and a very small exit hole.
In other words, this:
How on earth does this conform to any earthly physics?
And how on earth do professional scientists show this with a straight face????
posted by spooked at 8:43 AM
5 Comments:
Several people have addressed that issue on the democratic underground
forum.
Look for "hack89",
"sweet pea" and "azcat". There may
be others whose names I can't recall
at the moment.
Hope this helps.
the democratic underground hacks can address that all they want but the fact remains that a real hollow aluminum 767 with a plastic nosecone would fragment against the outside of the massive steel wtc - it would not even begin to penetrate.
I have had debates with those people. Unless you have a specific rebuttal to what I wrote, or a specific link, I'm not sure what your point is.
I'm SURE the shills have some explanation for this-- they always come up with some nonsense.
how on earth do professional scientists show this with a straight face?
pros get paid.
check out that starboard (bottom) wing-- it's turning into dust without even hitting anything!
Maybe it just fell apart from the embarrassment that it was able to smash through those outer 14 inch steel columns when it had no right to do so?
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