Carmen Taylor Nailed
From Thomas Potter:
The one caveat here is that we need to believe that the Hill call to Bukaty is real. The funny thing is that Hill now believes Carmen Taylor's story, even though his own interview contradicts her story.
More on Carmen Taylor here.
As you can tell from listening to Jeff Hill's 11/01/07 interview of Doug Haluza, he clearly states that Carmen Taylor was in his office building when the towers collapsed so it would be IMPOSSIBLE for Carmen Taylor to have an image of the smoking towers still standing in the digital display of the camera she was holding when AP photographer Robert Bukaty took her photograph. In the Robert Bukaty interview, which was performed on the same day, Robert Bukaty clearly states that the image in Carmen Taylor's camera was not United flight 175 frozen in time. It was an image of the smoking towers still standing from a distant perspective.They Hung Themselves With Their Own Words
Saturday, December 26, 2009 12:15 PM-
When Doug Haluza and Robert Bukaty were interviewed by Jeff Hill on November 1, 2007, only Jeff Hill and myself knew of the original Carmen Taylor photo that was published in ERROR with the towers still standing in the display screen of her "borrowed" camera and not the AP edited image with United flight 175 frozen in time. This was WHY Jeff Hill called them. We had inside information that we wanted to verify. Doug Haluza and Robert Bukaty not only hung themselves with their own words but Carmen Taylor as well.
Doug Haluza/Jeff Hill November 1, 2007
http://www.filefreak.com/files/90235_1xuhy/dh_110107.mp3
Robert Bukaty/Jeff Hill November 1, 2007
http://www.filefreak.com/files/85088_9jd9h/rb_ap_110107.mp3
The one caveat here is that we need to believe that the Hill call to Bukaty is real. The funny thing is that Hill now believes Carmen Taylor's story, even though his own interview contradicts her story.
More on Carmen Taylor here.
posted by spooked at 7:37 PM
26 Comments:
The sheer improbability and implausibility of Hill's calls was highlighted in my analysis of his alleged call to "FBI agent Tony" here:
http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2008/10/logic-and-unlikeliness-of-fbi-agent.html
Nearly all his other adversarial calls have his callees threaten to hang up, but never do. Then there are those regime scientists/callees who only would have spoken with him under orders.
So this was another one that I had predicted would later be seen (by all) for what he is.
That there are so many alleged 9/11 truthers in MI6 controlled countries (England, Canada , Australia) is telling.
Nothing from him can be taken for granted as genuine alas. (Though some of it may be--to heighten the confusion and confounding.)
Anonymous Physicist
Spooked:
Please provide more on who ALL those people you have cited in this piece are--for those of us who don't know or recall.
And is "Mr." Thomas Potter really Amanda Reckonwith, as it says here?
http://mrthomaspotter.blogspot.com/
And is that last blog from Genghis?
It does seem like nearly everyone involved in 9/11 itself can not be trusted.
But we should first be told who they are.
A.P.
Everyone should know who Carmen Taylor is, and Bukaty supposedly is the guy who took a picture of her with her camera where it had an impossible image for her to have gotten officially.
Doug Haluza is the person who supposedly helped Taylor upload her digital photos to a news station; he met her in Battery Park supposedly and kindly took her to his office in lower Manhattan to upload the pics.
I personally don't think Potter is Amanda Reckonwith, though who knows for sure. I have no idea who set up that weird blog, but it could be Genghis. I hate this sort of infighting where nothing is ever explained properly. What I like about Potter is at least he is coherent in his arguments, which counts for a lot in my book. Same for Killtown-- whatever else can be said about him-- at least he is coherent and explains things carefully.
Thank you.
(First, I won't get into Killtown as I have made that clear elsewhere.)
Now in the matter at hand, I presume virtually everyone in 9/11 research recognizes Taylor as an intel asset--except for the "new" Jeff Hill, who helped prove it.
I take it there is a consensus on this? (Not counting Hill.)
Robert Bukaty, on the Hill tape, makes clear that "the A.P. edited" his photos.
This country has never allowed a news service to be free--always controlled first by the secret societies and military intelligence, then FBI, CIA, NSA etc. So Bukaty himself may, or may not, be genuine, but it looks like Associated Press HQ and its controllers did the editing. And that means the alphabet soup I just cited.
Doug Haluza sounded very fishy. (No ferry boat ride pun intended.)
And even Hill's questioning is questionable, he should let these people say more for themselves instead of him giving all the answers allowing them to just affirm or such.
I found, if this is the same person, that he is a professional engineer--P.E. Is this the one?
There is much in the tape, on his office in Battery Park in this, so does anyone know the distance between B.P. and the WTC?
Of course, there appears to be much incredulousness in his/her tale in this regard. Most people would have gotten the hell out of there ASAP, not after sending things to Arkansas--which itself sounds fishy.
And of course there was the "chance" meeting, and a great and mutual desire to immediately deal with her "photo[s]."
Photos showing Zero Interaction Physics carry the greatest of urgency. Especially to a Professional Engineer.
Anonymous Physicist
Statements can be made with one sentence, any one of which (SPOOKED has many) makes the official version totally invalid. Yet, volumes are produced on the details (the impossible cell calls). In general, it can't done (operationally), and the whole notion is absurd.
All government entities work to defend the official version ($billions) (NIST), yet this is bad science/engineering. Should be without bias. Or better, if they are working for those that pay them, it should be to challenge the official version.
But like always, the sheep keep paying for their own destruction.
A few more comments. The Hill calls do sound fake-- staged. But they are GOOD fakes-- and who has the resources for that?
Also, the funny thing is Hill's story is totally inconsistent regarding Taylor-- his calls show her story to be false, yet now he's a major supporter of her story. Why would anyone do that unless they were under orders?
That's true, but my point I think is simpler and more basic.
The very get together of either adversarial individuals or those eyewitnesses too frightened to talk with anyone else says it all.
Hill can speak with just about any eyewitness, though many threaten to hang up and not talk with him--they all do. The threats to hang up are part of trying to show some "adversarialness" while still doing the interview.
So Hill can record just about every eyewitness.
Killtown can be the only one to get nuclear bomb/Electromagnetic Pulse eyewitness, Patricia Ondrovic to do an interview--even though she's unlisted and is too frightened to talk with any one else.
Ace Baker can get interviews from ZP Bazant and Steven Jones.
And fizzled nuclear bomb (WTC7) eyewitness Barry Jennings will only speak with Alex Jones. Or the Loose Change clowns. All these are thermite-sniffers.
And Nuclear Bomb victim--with melted skin--witness Felipe David speaks to no one, as he was handled by William Rodriguez.
And no one even knows what happened to Felipe David, as he is TOTAL PROOF OF NUKES!
So this one, according to my thinking is beyond interviews by any of the above mentioned hidden assets. As his very existence is PROOF of NUKES.
But the "turning" of Jeff Hill is the equivalent of the shutting down of the (intel-run) forums of Siegel, Killtown, Genghis, etc.
All the assets served their purpose in the first few years--to divert away from the nuking of the WTC and the China Syndrome Aftermath, and have 9/11 truthers get hung up on NPT and/or DEW.
The regime apparently thinks sufficient time has passed that they can vaporize the whole Op now.
Sadly my thinking indicates a larger US city may be nuked in the next 2-3 years, because they were able to keep the nuking of the WTC from going viral. Their Op-Plan worked, and the above assets are no longer needed.
Anonymous Physicist
P.S. Once again I ask "Where in the World Is Felipe David?"
The living--I hope--proof that nukes destroyed the WTC on 9/11. His MELTED SKIN--WITHOUT FIRE--is Proof of nukes.
He cannot be allowed to be interviewed not even by any of the above Intel assets. A reward should be offered to interview him or to learn about his whereabouts.
Or maybe not, if he is still alive, that would get him killed, and surviving the mini-Hiroshima of 9/11 should be enough pain for one lifetime for a human being.
My apologies to Barry Jennings for being remiss in noting his murder for beginning to speak out on witnessing the fizzled nuclear explosion of WTC7 on 9/11.
A.P.
Why sacrifice Mr. David, when it does not matter what took down the WTCs, except it was not kerosene.
How were the kerosene-like initial explosions made? Lots of "flame". Same at the Pentagon.
Everyone here knows that 500 m/h = 733 ft/sec. But of course one can conveniently place the plane at a plane-length from impact, for best effect.
Oh yes, and the plane is banking at 500 mph. Manual controls, even though non-linear, are locked out, autopilot only.
Cam you imagine a pilot in normal cruise taking evasive action at this speed. The bird comes apart.
So ridiculous! But all this is interesting stuff.
If this were my blog--you'd be gone in a New York second.
People, note the same words we've seen from Siegel, Killown and other assets:
"it does not matter what took down the WTCs" [sic]
This from a thermite sniffer. When there have been numerous great articles using Physics and Math to shoot down the OCT and the laughable thermite hypothesis.
See the Op-Plan? Distract away from the nuking of the World Trade Center and the China Syndrome Aftermath.
And either push the regime's intel nuclear physicist with his thermite, aka paint chips, hypothesis or else say "it doesn't matter," or "we can never know." This entity has done both variously.
Now this perp mocks the life and death of Barry Jennings and Felipe David. They were killed because your masters know well how much it matters, in that the people would be most likely to revolt if they knew your masters nuked the People.
Shame on you. Who's your controller?
Gone from here for several wonderful months, now back to crap up this blog with inanities, limited hangouts and mindless palaver.
Which agency?
It doesn't matter.
All filth, all the time.
And don't you love how he snuck in his masters beloved 33 above?
Ruhe!
"in that the people would be most likely to revolt if they knew your masters nuked the People."
Pissed if nukes. Otherwise, ok. They know.
"Who's your controller?" Funny.
Sieg Heil, Schweinhund.
Wer ist deinen Kontrolleur?
Verstehst? Herr 733 ft/sec?
He's here on loan from the Fatherland. As if we don't have enough Intel shills here already.
They couldn't have just sent over an Audi instead?
And the nuke aspect also proves it wasn't "Al-Qaeda" as well.
Instead of posting such gibberish as
"Everyone here knows that 500 m/h = 733 ft/sec."
Why don't you earn your "Engineering" paycheck and read and analyze the scientific analysis of the "works" of Jones and Bazant here:
http://bogus911science.wordpress.com/
And report back to us. Leave your badge in the office.
Oh and lest I forget, Sieg Heil.
As if we don't have enough Intel shills here already.
They couldn't have just sent over an Audi instead?
Or some Israelis!
This is above your head; have you done your counting today?
Look! There's one now!
Oh, never mind, it's the Mrs!
She could be intel too, couldn't she?
Deep undercover. Could be Mossad? Does she move any furniture?
Yes. Well that's sufficient proof, don't ya think?
Who knew?
She could be a sleeper agent.
Especially for about 8 hours a day.
probably you are a mossad agent since you repeatedly object to even a simple reference to israelis - i didn't realize they employed social morons.
Keep putting words in my mouth. I have repeatedly denounced the Israeli regime.
Don't try to equate the Israeli regime with your foul tendency to count Jews.
Again try to learn, try to change, try to absorb what has been presented here.
Learn to count--if you must--those really in charge. Find out how many in Congress are Freemasons, Jesuits, CIA NOCS, MI6 assets, etc.--including your cited Jews.
Instead of falsely assuming that they must have dual Israeli citizenship (the vast majority of Jews in the USA do not), try to uncover how many of them are controlled by the groups I just cited. Like the non-Jews, it is nearly 100%.
Change and enlightenment do not have to hurt--but you do have it bad.
Stop posting about the bottom of the ladder and proclaiming it is the top. Anything that is PROMINENT is the bottom, not the top.
Keep putting words in my mouth.
like you haven't kept putting words in my mouth?
Don't try to equate the Israeli regime with your foul tendency to count Jews
don't try to equate my pointing fingers at the israeli regime with your foul tendency to count perceived anti-semites.
falsely assuming that they must have dual Israeli citizenship (the vast majority of Jews in the USA do not
and yet a good percentage of the US govt did/does hold dual citizenship - chertoff, feith, wolfowitz, bernanke, who was before bernanke - him too, rahm emmanuel....even biden has stated "i am a zionist"
Find out how many in Congress are Freemasons, Jesuits, CIA NOCS, MI6 assets, etc.--including your cited Jews.
why don't you enlighten me instead of being insulting.
All the articles here by "A.P" should have done the enlightening.
What was too much to take was your comment to the piece that showed Palin is an imbecile.
Your comment that she allegedly wore an Israeli pin on her blouse or words to that effect was too much.
Palin is so obviously a CIA NOC, and is a creature run from Langley, London and Rome. As part of that Op-plan, the PTB PROMINENTLY (your own word--wake up to what it implies) get her to wear some pin just to get all the brainwashed pigeons to start to drool. And right on cue, that's what happened with all the anti-Semites, and/or anti-Israelis.
And I think it is up to you to first prove that any or all Jews in Congress have dual citizenship.
To merely assume and state that again shows your anti-Semitism. And to merely cite the most prominent Jews and most foul and most certainly intel assets run out of Langley, London and Rome, and merely use guilt by association for all the Jewsish Congress critters again is a foul thing to do.
Articles here have used the example of Heinrich (Henry) Kissinger. After his family barely escaped death in Nazi Germany, he was later drafted and ended up in Army Intelligence. He helped hide and transport the most foul Nazi doctors who tortured and exterminated his relatives. He followed orders without having any morals whatsoever.
Rockefeller found out about him and brought him back and got him a Harvard PhD, and declared the slow talking, slow thinking filth a genius, and it took off after that.
Having PROMINENT Jews is part of the Op. But the ones you cited, like my example of Kissinger, can be realized to NOT care about Jews, Israel or ANY human beings at all. They are there so people like you can get hung up on them, and not look at Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, London, Rome and beyond.
And I grow sick of having to point out the obvious to you. If you won't grow a brain after all the articles here...
This will be the last time, because, I don't think it will do any good, though I'd be happy to be proven wrong!
Your quoting Biden's alleged PUBLIC statement about being a Zionist was again made to get all the conditioned pigeons, like you, to start drooling.
Do your homework! Stop being played by the anti-semitic sites you go to.
Just google: Joe Biden Jesuits.
Hell you will even find that his son gets $80,000 a year to lobby for a Jesuit University. (Why do they need to do that in Congress? Answer: probably a cover for something much worse. E.g., contract Intel assets don't get paid directly.) If the son gets AT LEAST that much from the Jesuits, imagine what the father gets!
If Biden PUBLICLY said: "I am a Zionist" then when the cameras went away, visualize him saying, "but of course, that's a cover for my being an intel asset and a Jesuit. And I'd order Israel and all the Jews and most of Mankind to be exterminated in a minute if my Jesuit masters ordered me to do that."
No one with a brain would have any difficulty realizing that the PTB in the USA and their masters in London, who just a few decades ago REFUSED to even bomb the extermination camps or the train or train tracks that brought in millions to be exterminated, could NOW care less about Jews or Israel!!!!
Wake the hell up.
If Israel is propped up it's solely because of what has been well explained here. It was created--upon the deaths of millions of innocents--to merely be a flash point for the BIG ONE coming soon.
Biden is no more a Zionist than I am the Queen of England. A PUBLIC front to hide who his masters really are!
It's all there for those whose eyes and minds are open to see and think.
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