As Usual MAGA Is Lying or Deeply Deluded About Trump and Ukraine
"(The) Common MAGA argument is “Putin didn’t invade Ukraine under Trump. Which means he saw Trump as strong.” Nonsense.
Under Trump he didn’t have to invade. Trump was doing more to remove the NATO threat than an invasion could. Trump sought to draw down the US troop presence in NATO by a lot. Trump had plans to pull out of NATO altogether in term two. Trump regularly attacked NATO allies and sowed dissension. (See the relations between Trump’s ambassador to Germany and the Germans.)
And recall Trump was actually impeached for withholding vital aid from Ukraine.
Putin didn’t invade Ukraine under Trump because during his term of office Putin’s best plan for weakening NATO was Trump.
And don’t give me this nonsense Trump was strengthening NATO by forcing them to pay more line. He didn’t even understand how NATO financing worked. He attacked their spending as a way to attack the idea of the alliance. And the 2% commitment idea preexisted Trump by a lot.
And don’t say Trump was tough on Russia (he was the opposite). Or that he gave Ukraine weapons. That was done on the initiative of others and often against his protests behind the scenes. In fact senior officials who wanted to be tough on Trump often tried to work those issues behind his back/without his involvement.
No, for four years Trump was Putin’s wrecking ball for the Western Alliance—on many levels."
-- David Rothkopf
And this is simply nauseating:
"Former president Donald Trump on Tuesday hailed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s move to recognize two breakaway regions of Ukraine and deploy troops into the rebel-held territory as “genius.” In an interview with the conservative “Clay Travis and Buck Sexton” radio show, Trump said he was impressed by news of Putin’s actions.
“Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said. “So Putin is now saying, ‘It’s independent,’ a large section of Ukraine. I said, ‘How smart is that?’” Trump said Putin will now “go in” to Ukraine “and be a peacekeeper.”
“That’s strongest peace force … We could use that on our southern border,” he said. “That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy … I know him very well. Very, very well.” (via WaPo)
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i think that probably russia has had enough of US bioweapons labs located in the ukraine:
https://www.opindia.com/2022/02/russia-ukraine-invasion-bioweapons-labs-patrushev-putin-wuhan-coronavirus/
what if russia was to set up shop in mexico ?
MAGA might be liars but MAGA is not in charge of the US MSM, are they. at some point a truly objective american might want to remember the example of iraq and remind himself that americans are not immune to uncle sam's govt/media propaganda.
and here is an actual american guy in Kiev right now telling us how it actually is over there right now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo&list=FLcdOrh8Pq_5602ilk9b8oZQ&index=1&t=533s
and now we discover that ukrainian dictator zelensky is releasing criminals from prison, arming them and they are killing and looting their own country. i think that the time of pretending that ukraine is the good guy in this crisis has come to an end.
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62929
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