Is It Just Me-- Or Is There A Strange, Disjointed Aspect to the 1st Hit Impact?
It is as if the explosion is a separate entity from the "plane".
Moreover, while the flying object in the movie appears to be a smaller plane than a 767, how could a smaller plane make a hole the size of 767 (particularly with regard to the wing marks)?
All this tends to argue to me that we are not seeing a real plane in this video.
Enlarged frames were captured from the Naudet movie by Webfairy.
Full Naudet clip of the first hit:
Update-- a highly relevant and important article from Marcus Icke here.
posted by spooked at 1:08 PM
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spooked, have a look at this picture that has the gash overlaying the 'impact'. Not exactly sure how accurate it is, as I have not been able to duplicate the results (haven't had time to figure out how to make tranparent layers in GIMP yet to do my own overlays).
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7338/zzz4dv.jpg
Have you guys found a STRUCTURAL ENGINEER to endorse your mental midgetry yet?
PerpetualYnquisitive,
Interesting...
The "separate entity" that exploded is probably a cloud of recently liberated fuel vapour.
I've always said after the 1st time I saw this video close up, why didn't the 767's wings cast any shadows?
But my favorite part in this video is when the plane backs up. Quite a hoot.
But my favorite part in this video is when the plane backs up. Quite a hoot.
LOL. Indeed!
The "separate entity" that exploded is probably a cloud of recently liberated fuel vapour.
Errm, not sure what you mean. Fuel VAPOR? Why vapor, and why is this "vapor" not coming out of where the "plane" goes in?
how could a smaller plane make a hole the size of 767...?
how could a 767 make a hole the size of a 767?
assuming that a 767 could even make a hole in wtc1, it would be a giant gaping maw of a hole, not a ludicrous plane-shaped cut-out like yosemitesam would make. but as sword of nonsense has repeatedly made clear; i am not a structural engineer!
oh ya; never underestimate the power of yosemitesam!
> > The "separate entity" that exploded is probably a cloud of recently liberated fuel vapour.
> Errm, not sure what you mean. Fuel VAPOR? Why vapor,
That's what happens when liquid fuel intermixes with air at high speed.
> and why is this "vapor" not coming out of where the "plane" goes in?
Er, the white stuff you see left behind the plane impact point is some of it.
There was probably more within the WTC and maybe even some on the other side.
Wow, Perpetual!!! Amazing! Cheers!
malaprop aka izzy
Like, hey man, I mean do you know what direction the sun was coming from that morning?
Hey, like and do you know how long that frame of video takes?
Like you know I wasn't even NEAR there, but I can tell you all about it.
Hey, man I'm just asking questions.
From Merc...
Numerous civilians were telling me that a plane had hit the building. There were discrepancies as to the type of plane. *Some were saying it was a Cessna or Leer jet type, a small jet plane*.Some said it was a large passenger plane. One person actually said that it was like a *military style plane that actually shot missiles into the building.*
--Anthony Bartolomey EMT
we proceeded in Tower 1. I think the revolving doors were kind of busted up, so I think we went through a window. At that point we were still not sure that it was a plane that had hit the tower. There was some talk from the civilians coming down that a plane hit. *The consensus was that it was a small plane.
--FIREFIGHTER ROY CHELSEN
I was told by somebody that we had an eyewitness who happened to be an off-duty firefighter who
told me that he saw the first building get hit and it was hit by *a prop jet*, which I think turned out to be the wrong information, but everybody sees things differently. But he said
he was an eyewitness. I gave him to a fire marshal. I never got his name personally.
--FIRE MARSHAL STEVEN MOSIELLO
“I saw it come up from the left, and I saw the plane coming through to the building, go inside, a *small plane*….no, no, it was plane, you know, like they teach the people to pilot plane, small plane, you know, it was that kind of plane….yes, going into the building, and I never saw that plane before. It's like something, I don't know, it's like they work with the motors, I never saw a plane like that before!”
--Karim ArrakiFrom an ABC News Special Report at 9:08 am on Tuesday 11 September 2001.
“I was waiting a table and I literally saw a, it seemed to be a *small plane*. I just heard a couple of noises, it looked like it like ‘bounced’ of the building and then I heard a, I just saw a huge like ball of fire on top and then the smoke seemed to simmer down….it just seemed like a smaller plane, II don’t think it was anything commercial…”
--"Stuart", From a Bryant Gumble CBS News Special Report at 8:52 am on Tuesday 11th September 2001.
“We’re walking the dogs and we saw a plane flying really low, a jet, *a small jet*, and it flew directly into the World Trade Centre. And then all the pieces fell to the bottom…in seconds.”
--From Fox News.
"Hey Grandpa, I'll tell you what woke me up. They bombed the World Trade Centre. I'm looking at it and Mi-Kyung's video taping it. Terrible. I heard, Grandpa, I saw it. *It could have been a plane, but I think it was a bomb...a missile*...er...this could be world war three."
--From “In Memoriam: New York City 9/11/01”. Produced by Brad Gray and HBO for Brad Gray Pictures. 2002 Home Box Office. Video image above implies recording was made between the times of 8:46am and 9:03am on Tuesday 11th September 2001
Dylan, is that you?
the biggest problem with the Naudet video to me has always been the audio.
there are at least 4 versions of this, although, there was supposedly only 1 camera.
now, the audio is CLEARLY DIFFERENT.
so someone HAD to ALTER it.
if someone altered the audio,
how much can we trust the VIDEO ?
easily could have been altered as well.
911review.org/audio/
1st-orig-a.mp3
naudet.mp3
physics911.ca/org/modules/weblog/details.php?blog_id=59
3 separate audio tracks for the first hit video (Naudet)
in one , there are 2 loud bangs when the plane hits the tower. in the other, you cant hear the plane hit at all , or at least its very low.
This version was taken from someone tape recording a meeting near the World Trade Center.
I believe this to be more authentic. There seems to be 2 explosion sounds ?
- a guy in the background says HOLY SH** twice.some other differences ,
if you listen closely.who altered the audio? I s the video altered as well ?
Uh, lessee, who said that the audio track was EVIDENCE, and not sweetened, enhanced or otherwise edited?
You so called 'film makers' are ignorant of the process.
It was probably that embedded network of explosives in the towers which created the airplane-shaped hole -- note how the WTC1 hole changes shape at the same instant that the WTC2 Hollywood fireball erupts. (Doncha just love the way the disinfo types try to ridicule the "cartoon mentality" of people who notice that there's no sirplane-shaped hole in the Pentagon, yet who hypocritically insist that if the WTC hole resembles a 767 then it "must have been" a 767 which made the hole?)
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