The Shills Are Aliiiive, with the Sound of Bullshit
Top Five ways to know if you are a shill:
1) you mock someone who professes doubt in any aspect of 9/11
2) you pretend that there is no doubt whatsoever about the official 9/11 story
3) you mock any idea of ulterior motives or deep politics from the financial, military and political elites
4) you visit here several times a day, leaving contrarian, disruptive comments and not adding any productive discussion
5) you get paid, or coerced by a third party, to do any of the above.
1) you mock someone who professes doubt in any aspect of 9/11
2) you pretend that there is no doubt whatsoever about the official 9/11 story
3) you mock any idea of ulterior motives or deep politics from the financial, military and political elites
4) you visit here several times a day, leaving contrarian, disruptive comments and not adding any productive discussion
5) you get paid, or coerced by a third party, to do any of the above.
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1) you mock someone who professes doubt in any aspect of 9/11
No. Just those who doubt the truly ridiculous (no-planes) and create wild theories (nukes).
2) you pretend that there is no doubt whatsoever about the official 9/11 story
Lie. I've openly admitted that there are questions I feel have not been answered adequately.
3) you mock any idea of ulterior motives or deep politics from the financial, military and political elites
Nope. I'm sure covert shit happens. I'm sure the US isn't the only country to do it. I just don't pretend there are no other threats out there like you do.
4) you visit here several times a day, leaving contrarian, disruptive comments and not adding any productive discussion
I'll give ya' the several times a day thing. Depends on the week I'm having. But really, Spooked. You're not looking for productive discussion. You're looking for like-minded thinking. Anyone who comments to the contrary is automatically labelled a shill. You guys have a collective hard-on for shills. Everyone's a shill. Shill this. Shill that. You don't think every post on here is true?!?!! SHILL!!!!
5) you get to paid, or coerced by a third party, to do any of the above.
No one in the history of the truth movement has yet to provide one single shred of evidence to support this. It's something you've concocted in your heads to make you feel important. Like the Big Dogs see you as a threat, so they send out blog commenters to silence you.
How fucking ridiculous are you?
@ 3:44 is a perfect case in point of this particular post!
Lie. I've openly admitted that there are questions I feel have not been answered adequately.
ha ha the anonymous questions that never was!
3:44 PM-- so which anonymous commenter are you? Perhaps you could use some handle so we know who you are?
Cause I sure don't remember seeing one of you guys who has "openly admitted that there are questions I feel have not been answered adequately".
And I'm NOT looking for like-minded people-- only OPEN minded people. If you're open-minded, you're not a shill.
I'm Chad (signing into Blogger every time I comment got old). I have stated that there are questions surrounding the attacks that have not been answered.
That did not and has not stopped me from being labelled as a shill.
And you are looking for like-minded people. Anyone that questions your no-plane theory, your nuke theory, anything really, is immediately met with the shill label regardless of the evidence they present that contradicts your beliefs. Hell, you've gone so far as to delete comments.
How open minded is that? You put up a front that you want open-mindedness, but the fact is, in your little world, you KNOW there were no planes. You KNOW nukes were used. Anything said to the contrary you write off.
I'm Chad (signing into Blogger every time I comment got old). I have stated that there are questions surrounding the attacks that have not been answered.
hey the one and only chad!
so.
what exactly ARE these questions surrounding the attacks that have not been answered, that you state that you have previously stated?
so far the only question that i have seen is "why doesn't spooked do something about it other than this blog".
if you actually have a real question about any aspect of 9/11 then you have come to the right place.
ask away.
h is for ha.
In my opinion, SHILLS do NOT come here for the purpose of disrupting and dividing Spooked's honest readers and posters.
THEIR audience is the occasional visitor to this site and those who know little about the matters discussed here.
Why do I believe that? Well, first of all, they know that their tactics are patently obvious to honest readers/posters, but to the occasional visitor/poster, their tactics might well discourage the naive or merely curious visitor.
Anyone who visits sites where conspiracies involving legal matters are discussed (e.g. talkleft.com) do not have to put up with SHILLS. You may find some Spin, but not the kind of dishonest tactics used by SHILLS.
9:29 Good point.
My guess is that Chad, having been challenged by 8:45, to ask a real question about 9/11, will fail to do so.
I predict that if Chad responds at all it will not be with any "questions surrounding the attacks that have not been answered."
Go for it Chad, you either have some real "questions surrounding the attacks that have not been answered" or you do not.
I'd like to know what the intelligence agencies really knew in the months leading up to the attack.
I'd like to know why there was such a huge disconnect between the FBI, CIA, and NSA.
I'd like to know why the FDNY did not have radios that worked consistently.
I'm sure none of those questions interest you folk as you're more concerned dwelling on minutiae such as crater shapes and museum exhibits. But these are questions rational people have.
I'd like to know what the intelligence agencies really knew in the months leading up to the attack.
hmmm. what did condi rice say after the fact?
"duh, the memo was called 'bin laden set to attack the u.s. with planes'", or something to that effect.
me, i would rather know why the TV media broadcast obviously phony videos of a 767 hitting a wtc.
if a real 767 had hit a wtc it would be patently obvious and the politico community would have exploited that to no end to this day.
they have not.
I'd like to know why there was such a huge disconnect between the FBI, CIA, and NSA.
this is news to me.
what makes you think there was any disconnect between these agencies? and even if so, to what extent did this disconnect influence the actual events of 9/11?
i don't have an answer for this one chad.
I'd like to know why the FDNY did not have radios that worked consistently.
good question! i'd like to know the answer to this as well.
unfortunately, when this question was asked to giuliani he opted to not respond.
you're more concerned dwelling on minutiae such as crater shapes
that was a good one chad!
however the 'crater' that you would probably rather not dwell on did not exhibit even the slightest sign of having been created by a real 757.
come on chad, you get an E for effort but i bet you can do better than that.
hey chad it just occurred to me that the guys at 911blogger.com are probably the most qualified to answer the 3 questions that you have posed.
unfortunately for myself i have been blocked from posting or even commenting over there - probably because i am just too stupid or something.
but those fellows over there are among the most savvy fellows to have ever uttered the words nine eleven, so if you truly are seeking answers to those 3 questions then they are your best bet.
remember; 911blogger.com
..."probably because i am just too stupid or something. "
case: rested.
To Chad-- why don't you believe the right-wing spin that has been put out to answer those questions of yours?
Why is the clear fact that the flight 93 crater doesn't have a hole for the fuselage, ETC "minutiae"?
To Pinch/6:48PM-- yeah right. As I have said before, anyone normal person would get very tired of something they view as idiocy, and would not want to waste time here. To come here over and over leaving mocking and derogatory comments, is simply bullying, and the sign of an unhealthy person-- if that is all there was to it.
But actually, you are a liar with an agenda -- a SHILL-- and you show it every time you leave comments.
911blogger.com specializes in serious questions like Chad's.
The reason things such as the crater are minutiae is because, if you look at the rest of the evidence, it's not important. Phone calls, plane wreckage, DNA... It's all there.
Arguing that UA93 didn't crash there because the shape of the crater is not what you'd expect is just silly, especially since you (nor any of your readers) have any background in analyzing these events.
We've had this argument before, so there's really no point in getting into it again, but contrary to what you think, it helps to actually know what you're talking about.
The problem is, CHAD, you've admitted you don't know any better yourself. So you really have no idea if what I've put here is true or not-- you simply delude yourself by saying I'm wrong because I'm not an "expert".
Which makes you a... (wait for it)...
SHILL.
What you COULD do, if you know better, is to show how, for instance, the plane could have crashed without it's fuselage making a hole in the ground. But you can't do that, so you simply say I'm wrong because I'm not an expert.
It's like your little shill security blanket: I can't possibly be right because I'm not an expert.
What you could do Spooked, is ask an expert instead of pretending to be one.
That's part of the search for truth. Ironically, what the truth movement lacks in humility, it more than makes up for in arrogance.
The "I don't need to be an expert" canard is one that is parroted over and over again by you and others.
The fact of the matter is that it's far easier for you to sit behind your computer and speculate on matters you know nothing of than to reach out to those who do know for guidance. The truth movement avoids experts because they will invalidate your claims. Therefore, the experts, much like eye-witnesses, are written off as unnecessary.
No need to believe people who know what they're talking about when I can clearly show you with Microsoft Paint what really happened. Right?
And as far as the "shill" thing goes, get over it. You believe I and others here are shills, that's fine. But you're obviously either incapable or unwilling to do anything about it. Much like you will not do anything with all of your "evidence".
The world is currently going to hell in a handbasket. You have all the proof you need. Yet you do nothing, all the while claiming to be "outraged" with current events.
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing."
Congrats Spooky. You're holding up your end.
What are YOU doing, Chad?????
I'm not the one proclaiming "inside job". I don't see a massive global conspiracy everywhere I look. I don't need to stop the "NWO" from creating death camps.
You are.
I quibble with the specifics of what you wrote, but clearly YOU'RE part of the problem.
And that's why I call you a shill.
How am I a part of the problem Spooked. What specifically am I doing that's preventing you from taking all this concrete evidence and doing something with it?
Am I physically blocking your path out the door? Am I holding you hostage at gun point?
Fuckin' hell man! Once and for all, get out there and prove people like me wrong!!!!
You're a SHILL. I personally think that's immoral. And very wrong.
In my opinion, SHILLS do NOT come here for the purpose of disrupting and dividing Spooked's honest readers and posters.
THEIR audience is the occasional visitor to this site and those who know little about the matters discussed here.
Why do I believe that? Well, first of all, they know that their tactics are patently obvious to honest readers/posters, but to the occasional visitor/poster, their tactics might well discourage the naive or merely curious visitor.
This seems to sum it up pretty well.
So what you're saying is that all this concrete evidence that you have... All this irrefutable proof that 9/11 was an inside job. You can't do anything with it until more people believe you?
How positively convenient. And absolutely cowardly.
Tell me Spooked. Why is it that you need all this affirmation? Why are you allowing popularity to take precedence over facts?
One of your sycophants feels I'm the immoral one. But I'm not the one allowing the murderers of 3,000 innocent Americans to go unchecked. I'm not the one with rock solid proof that their deaths were covered up by fake media and globalized government. I'm not the one doing nothing.
You are.
No, SHILL. All you do is come here and knowingly, intentionally lie and try to scam people into ignoring the truth and lies that Spooked and others have
worked diligently to uncover and expose.
If you had any morals, you would apologize and repent, but you're a SHILL (paid liar), so you won't do the right thing and that is that.
1) Spooky lacks the intestinal fortitude to actually do anything about all this stuff he claims.
2) Which tells me he doesn't really believe this, else he would act with the power of his convictions and with the academic credentials and horsepower and technical acumen of his toe-sucking sycophant, the Anonymous Idiot, and the other strap hangers of his blog, and DAMN the recriminations that might result.
3) Imagine....you hold the key to the most egregious lie in world history, one that killed 3,000 of your own countrymen, one where nuclear weapons, for God's sake, were supposedly used on those self-same countrymen, one that set the stage for a so-called "illegal" war that has cost billions, one that created a false enemy, one that, really, sets the entire global community on the edge of a dangerous precipice for “endless” war and global collapse of the economic model that has kept everything in place for a century.
And yet you sit on your little obscure blog, doing nothing but rage at the sky and rebut every argument against your bullshit, not with facts and evidence, but rather with a one-word exclamation-pointed answer: "shill!"
THAT is what is funny.
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