Will the Real Lynn Spencer Stand Up?
Steven Warran finds compelling evidence of a manufactured biosketch for Lynn Spencer -- the "author" of one of the more recent 9/11 whitewashing books: "Touching History: The Untold Story of the Drama that Unfolded in the Skies over America on 9/11"
This comparison is really wild.
This smacks of an intel job.
This comparison is really wild.
This smacks of an intel job.
posted by spooked at 7:15 AM
31 Comments:
Anonymous Physicist:
When was it that you spoke out about SS agent Greer? Was it recently?
How long after you spoke out was it before you became ill from the poisoning of your home with mercury?
Are you still ill? If so, what does your doctor tell you about your prognosis for a full recovery?
Fuck you Early Wynn
I'm already as mad as a hatter!
Speaking of which, you should meet my friend Ann Moore.
P.S. Oprah is not going to be happy about the manufactured bio-sketch Lynn. You can forget about her bookclub.
Dr. Phil might have you on his show if you can prove that you were just a normal physicist until one day when you decided to carry on the work of Bill Cooper by promoting the theory that "SS agent Greer shot President Kennedy" and after you did that, nothing was ever the same again.
You might have a real human interest story there if you tell him that you became crazy as a joree on account of your house being poisoned with a Mercury and everything.
Might be worth a shot. If that doesn't work..."Hello, OPRUH, this is a.p. and if you don't know who that is, don't worry about it cause I don't know you either --- wait, wait - is this thing still on? What's the frequency, Dan?"
shut up 12:28. what do you care if AP's theory on the JFK assassination doesn't jibe with your own non theory? you worry about it too much.
ap's claims are bogus and s/he knows it. They are completely indefensible and yet s/he continues to use the platform provided by Spooked to promote a lie that was started by
a psychopath and criminal named Bill Cooper.
You may not be concerned about the truth and that your right (and personal problem), but as long as you
continue to tell lies like the ones you tell about JFK, MLK, and RFK,
I'm going to do what I can to make sure that naive readers aren't taken in by your baloney sandwiches.
Now, tell us again: when was your house poisoned and when did your physics career come to an end?
4:17pm-- tell us again, why are you forced to come here all the time and spew the same tiresome crap?
Also, if you want info from A.P., you are not going to get it by insulting him.
Finally, please show some evidence that Bill cooper was a criminal and psychopath!!!
Frankly, I can't imagine anyone but an intel agent calling Cooper that.
shut up 4:17. why should anyone consider AP to be the liar and not you?
AP's analyses of the wtc destruction is the only analyses that fits with the available evidence, so since he seems to be correct about that then odds are he is correct about JFK as well.
but just to be fair let's assume that AP is mistaken about JFK/greer - AP's failure to adopt your non-theory does not make him a liar, it would only make him mistaken.
and again frankly, it is none of your nor my business when and where AP was poisoned if indeed he was.
my guess is that if AP came forth with this info you would then ramp it up a notch and demand to know when and where AP got his degree. if he then came forth with that info you would demand to know who he is and where he lives.
maybe you should just cut to the chase and demand his SS#?
AP has proven that he is qualified to discuss the physics of the wtc destruction and that is good enough for me.
h is for ha bitch!
Spooked, you must have missed this insult from your disinfo source:
"Fuck you Early Wynn
10:33 AM"
You have a malleable definition of insults if you don't consider THAT one. Maybe you're just upset because that's how they treat you at DU. Or it could be just another
example of your double standards
policy in action.
Bill Cooper
Cooper was charged with various crimes, including tax evasion from 1992 to 1994, and bank fraud for giving false information on a loan application.
In the 1990s Cooper's interest moved from UFOs, to covert government programs, and finally to the militia movement. Having been torn in earlier writings with the possibility, he concluded that all UFO reports were New World Order propaganda.
By 1998 Cooper was living in Arizona. There were warrants for his arrest on charges of tax evasion and bank fraud. Cooper said he would meet with armed resistance any attempt to execute what he saw as "unlawful warrants." Later a warrant was issued for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, following a dispute with a local man who was stalking Cooper.[8] According to Commander X, in March of 1999 Cooper sent his family out of the United States for their security. He lived and worked alone with his two dogs, one rooster, and one chicken until his death in 2001.[7] In July and September 2001, Cooper was accused of using a handgun to threaten passersby near his home in Eagar, Arizona.
The circumstances surrounding Cooper's death are controversial. On November 5, 2001, officers of the Apache County Sheriff's Office decided to serve Cooper a warrant based on the above-mentioned charges. For reasons not explained, the Sheriff's Office sent deputies to Cooper's home at approximately 11:00PM, and instead of knocking on his door and announcing themselves, the deputies attempted to lure Cooper from his house by posing as citizens playing loud music on or near his property. Cooper, who was an above the knee amputee, went down to investigate the scene in his truck. It is disputed whether the deputies identified themselves or tried to serve an arrest warrant at that time. Nevertheless, Cooper announced he was returning to his house to contact the Eager Police Department, either to verify the warrant or to contact the local authorities in order to report what he may have still believed was a real disturbance. Before he could do so however, the sheriff's deputies tried to apprehend him, at which point shooting began. Although it is unclear who began firing, there are some who question the uncertain circumstances, and who was responsible for first shots fired. Independent investigators questioned who would fire first at a double amputee, and Cooper's supporters claimed it was a convenient death, given the close proximity to the September 11th attacks, of which Cooper had already predicted, three months or so prior to the attacks (on his show "Hour Of The Time", 6-28-2001), Cooper was armed and one deputy was wounded. Another deputy returned fire, killing Cooper.[9] Milton William Cooper was 58 years old.
Let the spinning begin.
More on Billy Boy Cooper
"People, as well as facts are prone to stumble into one of the many conspiracy universes. Once inside, the vortex only gains in size and strength, sucking in everything that person touches. Bill Cooper, who calls himself an independent UFO researcher, has entered such a universe, and it's likely that he will never return. He identifies with his theory so completely that he thinks anyone who challenges it--even his friends--do so only because they're part of the conspiracy. It is no use to point out contradictions, or even trivial errors, because Bill Cooper knows THE TRUTH.
Though William Cooper is a self-professed regular guy and ex-military man, his claims rival the Weekly World News for sensationalism. Cooper doesn't merely believe that our government signed a formal treaty with extraterrestrials in 1954, or that we have already set up a base on the planet Mars, or any number of other bizarre claims; he knows these things to be true, because while working for Naval Intelligence, he actually saw the secret documents that prove them."
Spooked, do you believe, as BC claimed, that our government "signed a formal treaty with extraterrestrials in 1954, or that we have already set up a base on the planet Mars"?
There's more here:
http://tinyurl.com/3lpw74
Enjoy. Billy is something else,
ay what? Not exactly my definition
of a voice of moderation, but you can speak for yourselves.
By your logic -
Since ap is wrong about JFK, MLK, and RFK, it's logical to assume she's wrong about the other things she writes about...by your logic. And, I would agree with you.
4:17, 5:10, 5:14 pm--
As far as Cooper, I suppose you could call him a criminal, officially, but I can hardly blame him for tax evasion. Psychopath hardly seems accurate. Yeah, nothing fishy about what the Arizona deputies did to him.... (eyeroll)
As far as the insults, I simply said they weren't helpful if you wanted info from A.P.
Now, please tell us why are you forced to come here all the time and try to counter A.P.?
I've already told you my reasoning about A.P. and JFK. Why don't you accept it?
And, no-- I'm not going to defend Bill Cooper on everything.
But please, dude, your desperation here, and your refusal to give yourself a user name is getting to be extremely annoying.
Now, please tell us why are you forced to come here all the time?
Because the truth is important.
Your readers deserve to know if you support the theories of people like Bill Cooper (I noticed you don't seem to feel that tax evasion is much to complain about, and maybe compared to some of the other crimes he was charged with, it wasn't).
So, you DO believe that the U.S. signed a treaty with extraterrestrials in 1954? Where was it signed? On the military base on Mars that Cooper claims is there? You believe that, too?
You have a growing credibility gap, my friend.
There are lots of places to defend the truth besides this tiny blog. Why is THIS site so important?
I said I will not defend everything Cooper has supposedly said. Lots of people who research UFOs have said there was such a treaty. I have no idea if that's true or not. It's possible. I tend to doubt there is a military base on Mars very much. But show me where Cooper said that.
The only credibility gap is in your mind. I try to be as open and honest as possible, given the nature of what is discussed here.
So again, I ask, 6:08 PM, that you give yourself a name of some sort.
You really think it might be true that the U.S. government signed a treaty with extraterrestrials?
Your basis for being neutral is that
lots of people have said there was such a treaty? That's it? "lots of people have said that" -- well, okay, if lots of people have said that the Earth is flat, then maybe it is.
Anonymous is one of the identity choices here and I've chosen it, but I'm getting just a little bit upset because there are some people here who have stolen my identity.
I hope you'll speak to them about that. BTW - why does "the poisoned one" use "anonymous"? That's rude
and unprofessional for a physicist; even a renowned one like her/him.
You really think it might be true that the U.S. government signed a treaty with extraterrestrials?
"signed a treaty" too funny!
hey major blah, the only way you can truly discredit AP is thru real physics.
maybe it is time for you to go ahead and do so.
You discredit yourself nearly every time you post here. Doesn't matter what the subject is. Moonbases or implying that Spooked is CIA.
When it comes to serving up baloney sandwiches, you have an endless supply.
You discredit yourself....implying that Spooked is CIA.
excellent application of the classic 'reverse straw-man' tactic!
OK-- we're WAY off topic here. To the person who repeatedly comes down on A.P., I 'm going to ask that if you want to continue this argument, you do it by email. It's very tiresome having these comments hijacked by this off-topic distraction.
I *will* start deleting comments from the person who keeps attacking A.P.. They have had their say, and now it is getting tiresome.
They have had their say MANY MANY times, I should say.
Signs of either obsessive compulsive disorder or a desperate intel operative.
Please tell whoever "ap" is to stop attacking people for pointing out when his facts are wrong or when his
claims aren't supported by evidence.
Thank you.
Spooked,
You aren't really CIA are you?
Someone here apparently thinks you are.
unreal. please just delete all of this comment section.
For more on the murder of Bill Cooper, the radio network that he did a show for, his last few years, has a wealth of information. Please start here:
http://www.hourofthetime.com/robdoyelbillmurderpartone.html
There are more links at the end of that article on Cooper’s assassination and his research.
Bill Cooper who was in the Office of Naval Intelligence (during the War on Vietnam) when he was shown the proof that Secret Service Agent Greer killed President Kennedy, and then briefly went AWOL because he could not stomach working for the regime that killed Kennedy. He was talked out of the AWOL, but from then on, tried to tell the American people what had happened.
You can find more of what I wrote about him, and more on the same Gestapo regime poisoning me for revealing that Greer fired twice first hitting Connolly--as clearly shown/heard on the audio-added version of the Zapruder film—here: www.anonymous-physicist.blogspot.com
And you can read what many eyewitnesses to Greer killing Kennedy said here:
http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!7D!0A!3D7855A05297/Larry762/fontcolor3300FF/page4.html
Bill Cooper lost a leg when the American Gestapo agents ran him off the road, when he lived in California, years before moving to AZ. It is true that he refused to pay federal taxes for several reasons.
One being that many tax experts have said--and some judges and juries have concurred--that the IRS-creating "law" was never ratified! Cooper also had the guts to do what many Americans wish they had the guts to do--NOT pay for the mass murdering of innocent people in America, and around the world. He did indeed stop paying federal taxes for a number of years. If Justice ever came to this country and to this Planet, not only would the top perps in the American regime be hung, but some punishment would likely be meted out against all
American taxpayers who are financing Mass Murder, Mass Torture, Mass Rape, and Mass Plunder of innocent people. Bill Cooper was a better Man than I, or most of us.
He knew he would be killed for what he was saying and doing, just as President Kennedy also knew it was likely that he would be killed for trying to end war. JFK would have given the highest awards to Bill Cooper. Kennedy was very fond of Thomas Jefferson because Jefferson said this country would need an armed revolution every 20 years to maintain its democracy/republic.
Bill Cooper remains the most trusted name/person in the entire conspiracy field, as many have learned that the near totality of “conspiracy experts” are intel agents. Cooper’s book, Behold A Pale Horse, remains the #1 bestseller in the conspiracy field.
The entire JFK Assassination field was created by the regime’s intel agencies because everyone there knew that Greer killed JFK, and they had to MANUFACTURE a mystery.
People are finding out what I wrote from the outset, that in the 9/11truth field, nearly all the ranting truthers are also intel. Indeed some of the same perps have been involved in both, as truth limiters, such as Fetzer.
RE the JFK assassination, the perps and their assets are forever tasked to proclaim, “Anyone but Greer did it.”
RE 9/11, their intel assets are tasked to say anything could have done it (pristine pancakes, thermite , “DEW”), except Nukes. And anything could have been happening at the WTC for months afterwards (“fuming, “molecular whatever clouds”) except the China Syndrome.
Bill Cooper was a genuine hero and patriot. And that’s why the intel filth, even the one(s) ordered to troll here, must forever lie about him.
Anonymous Physicist
No, I'm not CIA, nor have I ever had any affiliation with them.
This post has been hijacked by the
baloney sandwich maker because she
has been called to account for her
promotion of the bizarre theories and claims (U.S. signed a treay (sic) with extraterrestrials in 1954 - on the planet Tralfamador?) and to continue to promote the lie that the secret service agent/driver of JFK's limo is who shot him AND Governor Connally.
Folks, the above claims are from an anonymous poster who wants us to believe that s/he is a physicist who was poisoned by the Gov't for repeating the same lies told by
Bill Cooper (psychopath and criminal - and we're talking major felonies, not minor crimes).
The server of all of these baloney sandwiches is a phony coward who has to be protected by Spooked. Look how it's set up: we get the
baloney sandwich but we aren't even allowed to comment on it. Then, if we DO try to comment on it at a place where comments are allowed,
both the B.S. person and Spooked
jump you and put on their best Boloboffin/Lared hats and try to
change the subject, make YOU the subject, charge you with being CIA (yes, the B.S. lady implied that even SPOOKED is CIA).
One expects to have to continually correct the disinfo, lies, and unfair treatment accorded those seeking the truth at DU, but it's more than disappointing that it is also necessary to do that here.
Who'd have ever thought that Spooked would apply a double standard that's made worse because it's tilted in favor of an anonymous poster who claims to be a physicist but is obviously only an imposter and fool who "may", repeat "may" have taken some physics courses, but unlike 99% of real physicists who would never try to pretend they know things that they obviously don't know...our baloney sandwich maker promotes claims and theories about subjects that she has almost no knowledge of except for what some obvious kook or crank has posted somewhere on the Net.
Funny how some so-called progressives are NO different from
rightwingers. Same tactics, same values, same ability to rationalize
unfair practices and deny the obvious.
Why is that? Human nature. Confusion which arises from an unwillingness to listen to one's conscience when it demands honesty and doing the right thing.
9:51 AM-- I asked you to take this up in email.
The only reason I won't delete your last post is because it shows how ridiculous you are being.
And 9:51 AM -- dude, you're just making stuff up, including your little (sic).
Importantly, A.P. can write logically and coherently:
For more on the murder of Bill Cooper, the radio network that he did a show for, his last few years, has a wealth of information. Please start here:
http://www.hourofthetime.com/robdoyelbillmurderpartone.html
There are more links at the end of that article on Cooper’s assassination and his research.
Bill Cooper who was in the Office of Naval Intelligence (during the War on Vietnam) when he was shown the proof that Secret Service Agent Greer killed President Kennedy, and then briefly went AWOL because he could not stomach working for the regime that killed Kennedy. He was talked out of the AWOL, but from then on, tried to tell the American people what had happened.
You can find more of what I wrote about him, and more on the same Gestapo regime poisoning me for revealing that Greer fired twice first hitting Connolly--as clearly shown/heard on the audio-added version of the Zapruder film—here: www.anonymous-physicist.blogspot.com
And you can read what many eyewitnesses to Greer killing Kennedy said here:
http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!7D!0A!3D7855A05297/Larry762/fontcolor3300FF/page4.html
Bill Cooper lost a leg when the American Gestapo agents ran him off the road, when he lived in California, years before moving to AZ. It is true that he refused to pay federal taxes for several reasons.
One being that many tax experts have said--and some judges and juries have concurred--that the IRS-creating "law" was never ratified! Cooper also had the guts to do what many Americans wish they had the guts to do--NOT pay for the mass murdering of innocent people in America, and around the world. He did indeed stop paying federal taxes for a number of years. If Justice ever came to this country and to this Planet, not only would the top perps in the American regime be hung, but some punishment would likely be meted out against all
American taxpayers who are financing Mass Murder, Mass Torture, Mass Rape, and Mass Plunder of innocent people. Bill Cooper was a better Man than I, or most of us.
He knew he would be killed for what he was saying and doing, just as President Kennedy also knew it was likely that he would be killed for trying to end war. JFK would have given the highest awards to Bill Cooper. Kennedy was very fond of Thomas Jefferson because Jefferson said this country would need an armed revolution every 20 years to maintain its democracy/republic.
Bill Cooper remains the most trusted name/person in the entire conspiracy field, as many have learned that the near totality of “conspiracy experts” are intel agents. Cooper’s book, Behold A Pale Horse, remains the #1 bestseller in the conspiracy field.
The entire JFK Assassination field was created by the regime’s intel agencies because everyone there knew that Greer killed JFK, and they had to MANUFACTURE a mystery.
People are finding out what I wrote from the outset, that in the 9/11truth field, nearly all the ranting truthers are also intel. Indeed some of the same perps have been involved in both, as truth limiters, such as Fetzer.
RE the JFK assassination, the perps and their assets are forever tasked to proclaim, “Anyone but Greer did it.”
RE 9/11, their intel assets are tasked to say anything could have done it (pristine pancakes, thermite , “DEW”), except Nukes. And anything could have been happening at the WTC for months afterwards (“fuming, “molecular whatever clouds”) except the China Syndrome.
Bill Cooper was a genuine hero and patriot. And that’s why the intel filth, even the one(s) ordered to troll here, must forever lie about him.
Anonymous Physicist
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