Humint Events Online: Plame Case Dismissal Was More Significant Than I Thought Originally-- the US Government Continues Its Horrifying Trend Towards Fascism

Saturday, August 16, 2008

Plame Case Dismissal Was More Significant Than I Thought Originally-- the US Government Continues Its Horrifying Trend Towards Fascism

Federal Court OKs Treason, Crimes Against Humanity:
The traitors and war criminals who have taken over our government are dancing with joy this evening, and rightly so. Earlier today, a Federal Court of Appeals in Washington granted them legal immunity for every criminal action they have taken while in office.

The ruling, made by a panel of three judges in dismissing an appeal in the case of Valerie Plame , absolves government officials of individual accountability for any actions taken in an official capacity, regardless of whether those actions violated federal law or jeopardized national security. In effect, it legalizes treason, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.

Ho hum. Andy Sullivan reported it this way for Reuters:

Appeals court upholds CIA leak lawsuit dismissal

A U.S. appeals court on Tuesday dismissed former CIA analyst Valerie Plame's lawsuit against Vice President Dick Cheney and several former Bush administration officials for disclosing her identity to the public.

The Court of Appeals in Washington dealt another setback to the former spy, who has said her career was destroyed when officials blew her cover in 2003 to retaliate against her husband, Iraq war critic Joseph Wilson.


It's not only -- or even primarily -- a setback to the "former spy", as Andy Sullivan puts it. It's a setback to the Rule of Law, and a victory for the forces of tyranny. Perhaps Andy Sullivan can't say this, but that doesn't make it any less true.

Plame's outing led [to] a lengthy criminal investigation, which resulted in the conviction of Cheney's top aide, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, for perjury and obstruction of justice.

President George W. Bush commuted Libby's 2 1/2-year prison sentence last year.

Plame and Wilson sought money damages from Cheney, Libby, former White House aide Karl Rove and former State Department official Richard Armitage for violating their constitutional free speech, due process and privacy rights.

But the court ruled that the named officials are not liable for their actions, as Sullivan continues:

[A] three-judge panel of the appeals court upheld a federal judge's ruling that dismissed the couple's lawsuit.

The court ruled Cheney and the others were acting within their official capacity when they revealed Plame's identity to reporters.

Government employees who engage in questionable acts, such as abusing prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay facility or engaging in defamatory speech, cannot be held individually liable if they are carrying out official duties, the court said.

"The conduct, then, was in the defendants' scope of employment regardless of whether it was unlawful or contrary to the national security of the United States," Appeals Court Chief Judge David Sentelle wrote in the opinion.

It is interesting -- and horrifying! -- to note that this decision ventures well beyond the "just following orders" defense which was used by the Nazi war criminals and found wanting at Nuremberg.

It even goes beyond the "divine right of government officials" long desired by the Dominionists of the allegedly "Christian" so-called "Right". At least under the proposed "Constitution Restoration Act", government officials would have to claim they believed they were carrying out the will of God in order to be absolved of their crimes.

(snip)

And in the meantime, what about the rest of us? Because we weren't personally affected, because our careers weren't destroyed, we have no "legal standing" in this case, despite the fact that the ruling -- if upheld -- unleashes a most virulent form of tyranny, and despite the obvious fact that this is the ruling's primary intention.

You probably won't hear anyone criticizing this decision in the mainstream media -- and you might not read much about it elsewhere on the internet -- who knows? John Edwards had an affair, did you hear? Paris Hilton made a video!

So let's recap, shall we? A Federal court has ruled that some of the highest officials in our government are not accountable for their acts of treason, mass murder, war crimes, and crimes against humanity -- not because they were following orders (for surely some of them, especially Karl Rove and Dick Cheney, were giving the orders); not because they thought they were doing something righteous or Blessed by God; but simply because they held positions in the United States government -- regardless of the fact that these actions violated the most serious federal and international laws, regardless of the fact that they all knew their actions were deeply illegal, and regardless of the fact that they were never legitimately elected to those government positions in the first place -- or legitimately re-elected in the second place.

Furthermore, the court decrees, this immunity applies not only to the principals in this case but to all manner of American government officials committing all manner of horrific crimes -- including torturing prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

Did you get that? Do you finally get it now?

The terrorists have won. The federal courts are now ruling that they are all beyond the law.

No doubt the perpetrators of 9/11 will be afforded the same immunity .

19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Spooker reserves the right to violate some of the very principles that he posts about.

Censorship is one of them. Hypocrisy is another. Intolerance of opposing views is yet another.

The Spooker: is HE one of THEM, too?

10:37 AM  
Blogger spooked said...

What principles have I violated?

Deleting comments that mock me or AP is on par with the government excusing war crimes by virtue of the perpetrator being a government employee?

The question I have for you is why someone who is obviously smart enough to use a computer and type coherent sentences is acting like such a fool.

1:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spooked:

I'll concede that maybe it is wrong to accuse you of having violated principles which I thought you adhered to.

I don't understand how you could, in good conscience believe that asking questions is making mockery.

Both you and "ap" regularly mock me and in the case of "ap", he? goes far beyond merely mocking. Yet, to my knowledge, you tolerate it and only rarely, if ever, delete his?
posts, let alone admonish him for
making unsupported allegations about me and calling me names.

Allow me to respond to your question by asking one of my own:
why is it that someone who is obviously smart enough to use a computer, create his own blog and type coherent sentences, is acting so unfairly and vindictively.

3:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke.

Every post this intel perp has ever put up here has been a lie and/or an insult.

As proof he won't even put up a moniker after his comment, because he was exposed for all his lies.

Remember falely accusing Spooked of blocking you a year ago, when your every post was allowed back then? That alone would have led to anyone else permanently blocking you. But you have taken advantage of Spooked's good nature for too long.

The only one here acting maliciously is you. Either lying or insulting me or Spooked, or posting the gestapo regime's gatekeeping view of things.

And now you've got to be kidding--are you really trying to plant a guilt trip on Spooked?

Any place else you would have been banned ENTIRELY and PERMANENTLY a long time ago, when your intel tail was proven showing.

Why are you still here if you don't like having your lying or insulting comments sometimes removed now?

Oh I forgot, you are only here for the "truth", even though you never utter a word of it, and you won't change all the "falsities" about you in the article that is all over the web and in newspapers.


Anonymous Physicist

3:32 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

Asking questions is fine. I don't delete questions. It is up to AP to answer questions directed at him.

I have only deleted comments where either I or AP has been mocked. I don't appreciate anyone making light of AP's poisoning, and I don't like someone saying it was CIA goons, when AP has never claimed it was the CIA. Repeated comments along these lines have also gotten deleted.

Ask all the questions you want, though we have pretty much been over this ground before.

4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who poisoned "ap" with Mercury?

How does he know who allegedly poisoned him?

When did this allegedly occur?

Where is the evidence that this event actually happened?

What is his basis for claiming that he was poisoned by ANYONE?

He claims he was poisoned by "intel
goons" (HIS words, Spooker) for telling the truth about JFK's murder. What is the basis for making that charge against his alleged poisoners?

What are his credentials for claiming to be a Physicist? How can they be verified?

Thank you, I'll wait for ANSWERS, not more evasions - as I have for the past what - year? Two years?

4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spooked: Why do you allow "ap" to
post personal insults like these?

"Every post this intel perp has ever put up here has been a lie and/or an insult"

"Any place else you would have been banned ENTIRELY and PERMANENTLY a long time ago, when your intel tail was proven showing.

Why are you still here if you don't like having your lying or insulting comments sometimes removed now?"

"Oh I forgot, you are only here for the "truth", even though you never utter a word of it, and you won't change all the "falsities" about you in the article that is all over the web and in newspapers."

Why is it fair to allow "ap" to post such insults that have no basis in reality, yet truthful posts about HIM are deleted?

5:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, you--who won't even put up a moniker--are the one who has never posted a word of truth here.

What and where my degrees in Physics are, are none of your business. What Universities I taught Physics at, are none of your business. I am not a person of public interest. I write of the evidence of the nuking of the WTC, and the China Syndrome Aftermath because no one else is doing it right. Your "buddies" are all over the place. You have had over a year to get a physicist to critique my articles on the 911 nuking, the C.S. Aftermath, and the bogus physics and math of Seffen, Bazant, Jones, etc. The intel agencies have plenty of physicist perps on the payroll. Why haven't you gotten your buddies to refute what I have written?

But you are the issue here, as you keep lying and insulting. I see you finally wrote "intel goons" instead of your lying "CIA goons" that I didn't say.

And you are in real pain now, having been forced to say a single word of truth, and begging Spooked to let you go back to "all lies all the time."

You have had OVER A MONTH to answer the simple questions about you, as you are a public person since the "article" about you went out all over the press and the internet.

YOU are also a person of historical interest as you both "heard the Kennedy Assassination as it happened and saw JFK being brought into Parkland Hospital in an ambulance."

See the article "The “REMASTERMIND” Needs to Reveal His Timeline for Nov. 22, 1963"

http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2008/07/remastermind-needs-to-reveal-his.html


What you did and where you were are matters of the gravest importance to the People of this country and to history.

YOU have had 45 Years and one extra month now to answer these crucial questions!!!

We will wait till Hell freezes over.

A.P.

And P.S. Anyone who continues to mock the severe medical condition of another human being (in this case me) is real filth! But you gleefully continue to do this, as you KNOW it was done by your employer--the gestapo regime.

PPS: 45 years plus one month, and still no reply to the crucial questions on his historical role.

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why won't you give give a straightforward answer to the questions I asked?

Here they are again. Since you are now claiming that you taught "at universities", which ones are you
talking about?

Who poisoned "ap" with Mercury?

How does he know who allegedly poisoned him?

When did this allegedly occur?

Where is the evidence that this event actually happened?

What is his basis for claiming that he was poisoned by ANYONE?

He claims he was poisoned by "intel
goons" (HIS words, Spooker) for telling the truth about JFK's murder. What is the basis for making that charge against his alleged poisoners?

What are his credentials for claiming to be a Physicist? How can they be verified?

Thank you, I'll wait for ANSWERS, not more evasions - as I have for the past what - year? Two years?

7:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SPOOKED: In addition to the latest insults and lies posted by "ap", here
is a repeat of my earlier quote.

May I have the courtesy of a substantive response.

Spooked: Why do you allow "ap" to
post personal insults like these?

"Every post this intel perp has ever put up here has been a lie and/or an insult"

"Any place else you would have been banned ENTIRELY and PERMANENTLY a long time ago, when your intel tail was proven showing.

Why are you still here if you don't like having your lying or insulting comments sometimes removed now?"

"Oh I forgot, you are only here for the "truth", even though you never utter a word of it, and you won't change all the "falsities" about you in the article that is all over the web and in newspapers."

Why is it fair to allow "ap" to post such insults that have no basis in reality, yet truthful posts about HIM are deleted?

5:02 PM

7:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SPOOKED:

Here's a typical example of a lie that "ap" has posted repeatedly and that YOU should be able to easily prove that it is indeed a lie or else is the truth. If it turns out that it is true, I'll apologize. If it's a lie, then I'm asking you to tell "ap" to stop repeating it. Actually,
I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before but you never found it convenient to check out - even though I would have thought that you would have done so on the occasion of the very first time he posted it.

Here's the lie. Will you kindly check the archived posts and tell us what you found. Thanks.

"Remember falely (sic) accusing Spooked of blocking you a year ago, when your every post was allowed back then?"

9:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would think Spooked remembers all too well your accusing him of "blocking you" all the while you were posting, including the lie that he was blocking you.

I await your apologies. We will start with that one first.

A.P.

1:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why won't you give give a straightforward answer to the questions I asked?

Here they are again. Since you are now claiming that you taught "at universities", which ones are you
talking about?

Who poisoned "ap" with Mercury?

How does he know who allegedly poisoned him?

When did this allegedly occur?

Where is the evidence that this event actually happened?

What is his basis for claiming that he was poisoned by ANYONE?

He claims he was poisoned by "intel
goons" (HIS words, Spooker) for telling the truth about JFK's murder. What is the basis for making that charge against his alleged poisoners?

What are his credentials for claiming to be a Physicist? How can they be verified?

Thank you, I'll wait for ANSWERS, not more evasions - as I have for the past what - year? Two years?

9:09 AM  
Blogger spooked said...

Dude-- AP has asked for his privacy, as he is not a public figure. Furthermore, he gets the benefit of the doubt from me here-- fairly or not from your perspective.

But why should he answer anything from you about his private life when you won't even respond to important questions about the JFK ass'n? If you're not the "remastermind", simply say so. Yet all we get are these time-wasting games from you. It *doesn't fucking matter* what the answer to your questions is.

9:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SPOOKYDUDE

I think you're afraid of the truth about your little buddy, and I think you'd stay in denial if it was plastered in front of you in big bold type. Fear of embarrassment by one's own child?

HE was the one that brought up his "private life".

HE was the one who claimed that "intel goons" broke into his house and poisoned him with Mercury and that the reason why they poisoned him is because he "told the truth about the JFK assassination".

Exactly WHO he "told the truth" to is not known and why "intel goons" or "intel perps" would want to poison him for "telling the truth" about the JFK murder is also unclear.

What exactly is YOUR objection to
allowing him to answer a few simple questions about claims that HE made? Are you his father?

Once upon a time, long ago, you would have been willing to answer questions about any claims that you made, and in fact, I've read many of your responses to questions about your various 9/11 posts.

What happened to your willingness to defend your own claims?

If you're not the father of "ap", just say so. If you aren't an "intel perp", just say so. If you
don't think your readers should have the right to expect answers from "ap", then why do you allow people to ask questions? Seems kind of chicken shickle to me.

10:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spooked: Why do you allow "ap" to
post personal insults like these, and why don't you delete them? You have a double standard. If someone dares ask questions or posts reasons why "ap" is full of bull shift, you delete them, but when "ap" posts lies and insults, you don't delete them. That isn't fair and it actually makes intelligent people that much more likely to be skeptical of your phony friend.






"Every post this intel perp has ever put up here has been a lie and/or an insult"

"Any place else you would have been banned ENTIRELY and PERMANENTLY a long time ago, when your intel tail was proven showing.

Why are you still here if you don't like having your lying or insulting comments sometimes removed now?"

"Oh I forgot, you are only here for the "truth", even though you never utter a word of it, and you won't change all the "falsities" about you in the article that is all over the web and in newspapers."

Why is it fair to allow "ap" to post such insults that have no basis in reality, yet truthful posts about HIM are deleted?

1:34 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

Once again, anonymous troll, AP gets the benefit of the doubt from me here-- fairly or not.

Further, I am not APs father. I am not intel. I do not prevent AP from responding to anything.

Why should AP answer anything from you about his private life when you won't even respond to important questions about the JFK ass'n? If you're not the "remastermind", simply say so. Yet all we get are these time-wasting games from you. It *doesn't even fucking matter* what the answer is to your questions. His writing and research speaks for itself.

You are really getting tedious, but perhaps that is the point-- to waste our time.

How many times to I have to say that I trust AP and I give him the benefit of the doubt?

Why should I trust some anonymous whiny troll who posts the same tedious remarks over and over and won't even use an online nickname so we have to constantly guess who he/she is?

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Head CIA Goon said...

I'll have to slip a little extra scratch in the CIA goons paycheck.

Even if they didn't do it, they deserve the extra greenery because they have Spooky so spooked that he's deleting any comment that talks about this!

Well done, CIA Goon Squad! A lingering death, highlighted by repeated spontaneous bowel evacuations is a terminus too good for the Anonymnous Asshole.

4:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Why should I trust some anonymous whiny troll who posts the same tedious remarks over and over"

Good question, Sir Spookery - and he?
certainly knows by now that his/Cooper's claims are unsupported by the evidence - but he continues to
post "the same tedious remarks over and over". Just like an "intel goon" from the Regime.

Anonymous Human Nature Scientist,
author, lecturer, and former owner of "Duke of Madness Mufflers" (still located in Lost Township, one block East of the New World Freeway)

6:43 PM  

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