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Sunday, November 08, 2009

"House Votes to Kill Your Grandmother & All Christians, 220-215"

The end of America as we know it!!!!!!!

UPDATE: whoops-- left out a very key word in the post title! :P Fixed now.

14 Comments:

OpenID camjnbp said...

i don't know what the social(ist?)ramifications of this bill will entail, but i do know that it has been much bandied about that every U.S. person will be required to purchase a healthcare policy, failure of which to do so will result in huge penalty.
if so, then this bill would seem to have been written by the health insurance industry itself.
anyway, what kind of fool *representative of the people* would vote for a 2000 page bill that he/she could not possibly have had time to read?
just like the massive patriot act and the even more massive "stimulus" bills.
so much for the no taxation without representation that the founding fathers of this country fought for.

2:51 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

My thinking is that the bill is not socialist enough! Too much input from the health insurance capitalist moguls. I actually think the bill will result in some modest improvement in health care for all, but won't save as many people as should be saved.

4:14 PM  
Blogger nickname said...

The average person is quick to

condemn people who do have car

insurance - despite the fact that

their own insurance would cover the

cost of repairs if their car is

damaged by an uninsured driver, so

why do they get so upset about a

requirement that everyone purchase

medical insurance?


Thanks, I'll hold.

5:47 PM  
Blogger nickname said...

On edit - should read "people who

do NOT have car insurance.

Sorry for the mistake above.

5:49 PM  
OpenID camjnbp said...

unfortunately todays economics seem to entail privatization of profits with socialization of costs/losses.
one has only to observe the recent bank/wall street bailouts (stimulus plans) to discern this.
the average john Q public (or most likely his children) is screwed no matter what.
by the way, i have complete coverage auto insurance in case some fool without ins. runs into my car.
you cannot equate manditory auto ins. with manditory health ins.

7:51 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

My view is that it is insane that insurance companies are making a profit based on what kind of health care you get. Obviously the system is fucked up and even modest reforms are welcome.

I think single-payer is the way to go, but it remains to be seen what the final health care bill will do in terms of mandatory insurance etc.

8:14 AM  
Blogger nickname said...

"you cannot equate manditory auto ins. with manditory health ins."


I just did. Why can't you? The

logic is the same in both cases.

8:24 AM  
OpenID camjnbp said...

the logic is not the same at all - you have mandatory auto ins. to protect other drivers from yourself.

9:30 AM  
Blogger nickname said...

Wrong. The logic is exactly the

same.

The state requires auto insurance.

It's corporate welfare for the

insurance industry. The state can,

and most likely WILL require everyone

to purchase medical insurance.

It's just another example of

corporate welfare.


Soon, the state may require that

everyone purchase a life insurance

policy.


Here's another realistic example

of what could happen. The state

could mandate that all school

children who do not score a certain

minimum on TAKS tests will be

required to attend supplementary

classes at the expense of their

parents. Education insurance

could even be mandated for such

a purpose.


Politicians and lobbyists will

always be able to come up with

plausible arguments to justify

corporate welfare schemes, and

the naive, gullible portion of

the public will agree. The rest

will have no choice but to pay uP

or face the consequences -- just

like what is being proposed with

the mandatory medical insurance

legislation that is being

seriously proposed.

11:04 AM  
OpenID camjnbp said...

again, your mandatory auto liability ins. is to protect other drivers from your driving.

however, all the scenarios that you propose do not seem that unlikely.

12:29 PM  
Blogger nickname said...

Again, using the same logic about

protecting" other taxpayers from

having to pay for YOUR not having

medical insurance, the government

can/will mandate more corporate

welfare to the insurance industry

by requiring you to purchase

insurance.


At least you were able to grasp

that creative lobbyists and

politicians can/will come up with

plenty of other schemes to transfer

wealth to the insurance industry.

Most well-informed people knew that

making car insurance mandatory was

a huge mistake because it just

opened the floodgates for lots

more where that came from.

Mandatory medical insurance is

next, but it won't be the last

method of this particular type

of corporate welfare.

3:03 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

Nickname--

why are your comments double-spaced?

8:52 PM  
Blogger nickname said...

To give you a reason/excuse to

comment on

something other than the point of

my comment, without appearing to

be avoiding the actual point of it.

10:22 AM  
OpenID camjnbp said...

L

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!

2:49 PM  

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