Smelling Jet Fuel on 9/11
Lots of people said they smelled jet fuel on 9/11 at the sites of the putative plane crashes. 9/11 shills sometimes use jet fuel "nosewitnesses" as evidence that planes crashed on 9/11.
I just have two simple questions about this.
I have flown on commercial jets regularly for years, but I don't think I could identify what jet fuel smells like. Particularly, I'm not sure I could distinguish the smell of jet fuel from diesel fuel. That is, there is a fuel smell I have noticed at airports when boarding planes, but it is similar to a fuel smell that I smell in other places besides airports, often around heavy machinery or generators, that I think is diesel fuel.
Thus, on 9/11--
1) how did so many people know exactly what jet fuel smelled like?
2) how did so many people know for sure that they were smelling jet fuel, and not say, diesel fuel?
I just have two simple questions about this.
I have flown on commercial jets regularly for years, but I don't think I could identify what jet fuel smells like. Particularly, I'm not sure I could distinguish the smell of jet fuel from diesel fuel. That is, there is a fuel smell I have noticed at airports when boarding planes, but it is similar to a fuel smell that I smell in other places besides airports, often around heavy machinery or generators, that I think is diesel fuel.
Thus, on 9/11--
1) how did so many people know exactly what jet fuel smelled like?
2) how did so many people know for sure that they were smelling jet fuel, and not say, diesel fuel?
posted by spooked at 6:51 AM
19 Comments:
Excellent observation and conclusion.
You have a first-rate, sensible mind.
Did you post this on DU? If so, what was the response? (I haven't visited there in a while)
If you smell jet fuel, kerosene, when you board a jet, get off immediately.
What they smell is that from machinery, that working around the WTC, same as at airports.
I just posted this on DU. Only one silly response so far, from LARED.
Part I from Anonymous Physicist
Spooked:
Now I think this needs to be examined on a case by case basis. Has anyone looked into the backgrounds of these jet fuel sniffers? URLs?
Recall that many of the "folks" who claimed to have seen planes go into the towers or the Pentagon were either TV producers and such (towers), or had military or other Gov't connections (Pentagon), or else were proven (towers) to have not been able to have even seen the towers from their position, or the type of plane from their positions.
So we need to know where the sniffers were, and even at what point in time they claim they could smell jet fuel.
Now here is a man who should have said he smelled jet fuel!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPvu0lQCu20
The amazing Stanley Prainmath who outdueled a Boeing 767, that not even Chuck Norris would survive.
In searching for the answer, I found this interview:
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/s/survivor1.htm
It includes Prainmath's nose in action: "...I don't know if it was sulfur or what [burning jet fuel, perhaps], but I can smell this thing."
So Prainmath smells "sulfur or what" and the author of the piece--Dan Van Veen--is the one to insert "jet fuel" in brackets.
However true to form, is Prainmath's veracity or lack thereof. Read the entire piece. Near the sulfur reference, Stanley claims he is about to be rescued by someone shining a flashlight on him. But later he says the man was on the other side of a wall. That's some flashlight, maybe an X-ray laser, he just happened to have in his pocket? As if. Or…
So the one nosewitness who would have allegedly been close enough to actually smell jet fuel cites sulfur.
In that light, the tower crashes were high up, and I presume all the (other) sniffers were on the ground.
Then I would add this matter. Namely if they were explosions of some chemical explosive such as napalm, it might indeed have smelled like fuel. Specifically saying "jet fuel" does make one pause, unless...
Now regarding an explosive such as Napalm, Wikipedia's first paragraph on Napalm is this:
"Napalm (naphthenic and palmitic acids) is a thickener generally mixed with gasoline for use in military operations. The substance's name, napalm, is a combination of the names of its derivatives (coprecipitated aluminium salts of naphthenic and palmitic acids). Colloquially, napalm is used as a generic reference to several flammable liquids used in warfare, often jellied gasoline....."
See how gasoline is cited twice.
Wait! I just found this.
Part II from Anonymous Physicist (Unfortunately Comments disallows a post over a certain size.)
WAIT!
And indeed now I recall the controversy. Napalm is supposed to be banned—except perhaps in frying your own citizens, and following that up with nukes. And it is alleged that the US regime used napalm on the Iraqis. And the US regime countered by saying it was something else.
Guess what, it really is Napalm except for one thing! Jet fuel is substituted for gasoline!
See here from the San Diego Union-Tribune in 2003:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030805-firebombs01.htm
Note an expert claiming it IS NAPALM whether it had gasolne or jet fuel, and the American military was using a banned weapon on the Iraqis (and WTC workers).
So people MAY (backgrounds should still be checked) indeed have smelled jet fuel, at the WTC, because the Napalm, or Napalm-like, explosive used contained jet fuel!
And this examination shows that smelling jet fuel may help prove the type of explosive the American regime used, rather than the CGI planes!
There is a massive body of work proving that the planes were merely CGI for TV viewers, but see my article on “Zero Interaction Physics” for both the tower and planes that proves no planes hit the towers here:
http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2009/07/zero-interaction-physics-or-zero-crash.html
Perhaps the motto of this should be: “Be careful what you sniff for, you may end up proving the case against yourself.”
Smelling jet fuel at the WTC, IF the nosewitnesses were genuine, helps identify the type of explosive the American regime used on its own citizens, before it nuked the remaining ones in the towers on 9/11.
Anonymous Physicist
anonymousphysicist.com
jpt8 (jet fuel), kerosene, diesel #1, and diesel #2, are almost indentical, and interchangeable in some devices. I sometimes smell the jpt8 when getting on and off planes--maybe it is incomplete combustion from idling, or shutting off or starting.
I saw a documentary on public access last night about viet nam, and the napalm runs did look similar to some of the eruptions in the wtc.
But, dude, seriously, I looked at a few dozen photos this morning of the cars fried out. Man, that is powerful stuff. Looking at those pictures and you realize 1.) only some sort of nuke blast could do that and 2.) who do you think could be paid enough money to actually pull that job off? There is no way Americans, no matter how much the pay day was, would do such a thing. The people who actually did the rigging must have really believed they were being righteous, were acting on some higher purpose to do such a thing. Who fits this profile? I just cannot visualize machiavellian corporations and politicians being able to hire a whole crew of sociopathic mercenaries to get the job done. The rigging crew had to be technically proficient and somewhat sane within a coherent culture that was invested in doing the job as some sort of culture-saving activity. It does not take a lot of skill, dedication, commitment for a sociopathic stooge to call up NBC during the implosions and bullshit about Al Quaeda but it does take tremendous skill and dedication and teamwork to rig this job. Sociopaths do not have these qualities. (They do not play well together.)
1) how did so many people know exactly what jet fuel smelled like?...etc.
Line them up with 5 fluids and have them identify them. (Throw in a bucket of Virginia Dare or Liebfrauenmilch.) But they never verified anything in this official report. Too arrogant. No demos.
Nobody cares.
9/11 First Responders Dying of Cancer -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5S8UuB3fcM
The media was part of the psyop.I do not think it is good to get too worked up about what some probable intel shill/plant said about what they smelled. It is difficult from a psychological point of view, but one eventually has to come to the conclusion that everything from the major outlets is a complete distraction, misdirection, an ongoing psyop.It was true on that day, and it continues to be true today. The killing, the stealing, the lying--all the same, just a different day.
Too much wealth is concentrated in too few hands. Every day they can say up is down, black is white--who is to hold them accountable? The day will come when not 3000, but 300,000 will be dead in the street and it will not even be mentioned.
Re: The Manifesto for Military...speech by Donald Sutherland. The speech indirectly states that the warmongers will be the one's the GI's go after. Is it not clear that the whole point of 911 was to make it so the war mongers would be seen as patriotic forces avenging a terrible, cowardly deed?
I am a corporation. I am so large, if I were a company, my GNP would be larger than most countries. I research, design, and make nuclear weapons. I test nuclear weapons. I make jet engines for military and civilian uses. I own a television network that set up a fixed camera early in the morning of 9-11 and almost all of my footage broadcast live was from this fixed camera. When the first tower went down, our anchor said: "That was a building that needed to come down..." . In the feed from the fixed camera, a very large, black, woolly mass appeared and disappeared into the second tower. Explosions occurred. We told you it was a plane.
We put security experts on the air that told you it was al-quaeda who was doing it. We changed the color tint of the nuclear glow. Some of the security experts we put on the air were later implicated in poisoning senators inquiring into the attacks.
Our anchor, sometime later, announced his retirement saying "he wanted to be able to go to Canada to go fly fishing"--quite possibly because at that time Canada planned on arresting war criminals. If a war of aggression is the supreme war crime because it contains all the other war crimes within it, how serious is tricking a nation to commit a war of aggression?
We have the means, the motive, and the opportunity. We will never be charged. We own you, we tax you, we own your politicians, we own your mind. The train is already arrived in the ghetto: Get In!
funny, this post is number 4 on google for "smelling jet fuel"
"We bring good things to life"???--for our shareholders.
The ground trucks at airports burn jet fuel instead of diesel fuel because it is almost the same and it is easily available.
Maybe Carl Sunstein will cognitively infiltrate this blog and help to straighten out all this crippled epistemology. Lead us on, I want to believe. Show me the light. Go Sunstein go, infiltrate, infiltrate, you can go, you can go, all the way.
I totally match with anything you have written.
wow, what a bunch of delusional losers.
No science or critical thought processes here. Just a bunch of egotistical fantasy bloggers.
I smelled something man-made for about a week or so starting a day or two after 9/11. I was in Inwood (northern Manhattan) and have wondered for years what it was that I smelled. To this day I don't know. I assumed it was aircraft fuel at first, but the smell was just too sweet for fuel, in my opinion. I think I would have recognised normal gasoline or diesel pretty well and this was certainly neither of those. I doubt it was sulphur with its noxious bad-egg characteristics. I wondered if it had been concrete, but that makes no sense. And then, of course, I wondered if it was explosives. Somehow I should perhaps one day do a sniff test of various possible "candidates". It it was explosives then at least I will know definitively who didn't bring these towers down.
it smelled like sulfur and burning fuel like one would smell at the drag races. it lingered in my apartment for days and made me sick to my stomach even though i lived around 5 miles away in queens.
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