Humint Events Online: Personally, I'm Getting Tired of the Idea That Every Mass Shooting

Saturday, December 22, 2012

Personally, I'm Getting Tired of the Idea That Every Mass Shooting

is some massively evil staged psy-op, all for the sake of "taking away guns from Americans", and enacting some sort of martial law, or whatever.

Too much right-wing paranoia, for me.

Too much bad conspiracy-theorizing-- too much grasping at straws and weak clues.

Too many gun freaks going absolutely nuts about the prospect of even weak gun regulation.

Too much Alex Jones and too much NRA and too much gun adulation.

I just don't have the stomach for it, personally.

Note-- I am not saying Sandy Hook *wasn't* a conspiracy of some sort, or that other gun massacres didn't have funny business with them.  I just am tired of all the stuff that people put out for each one of these incidents, and I find it hard to believe EVERYONE of these was a set-up.  There ARE real crazy people-- drugged up or whatever-- who do go on massacres with guns, without government assistance.  Limiting their access to guns would help save lives.

Meanwhile, I do think the NRA and gun manufacturers have a very evil aspect to them.  They are NOT simply about protecting American's freedoms-- their primary goal is to make money and they do spread a good amount of death and destruction.

The NRA arrogantly refused to soften their stance on gun control and horrifically says the solution to gun massacres at schools is posting more armed guards at schools. This is basically the "shock doctrine"-- a national tragedy becomes a prime business opportunity for the NRA's gun manufacturer sponsors.

The NRA has MILITARY connections.  Historically, the military aspect of the NRA makes sense, but now it just seems gruesome and evil.

The NRA is a huge supporter of the GOP, and the GOP is a major part of what is wrong with this country, in my opinion.

The NRA won't even allow funding for proper studies into gun violence, for fuck's sake.

The NRA does have blood on their hands, as far as I am concerned.

Moreover, the gun manufacturers have completely immunized themselves from wrongful death suits, leaving no recourse for victims, through Congressional legislation.

Look-- I am NOT suggesting to repeal the 2nd amendment by any means. I am fine with Americans having guns in general. But at this point, I think it has become a sick sick business, and I think anyone who wants to carry serious weaponry (semi-automatic rifles, large capacity magazines, concealed handguns) needs proper training and certification.

At this point, Americans' guns are not going to overthrow the government or help Americans fight off the police state.  That is a fantasy that needs to be discarded.  Having guns to protect your home and family from outright anarchy is also a bit nuts.  One needn't be obsessed about that, as we are nowhere close to that, and I still believe civilization will last quite a while.

Having guns to protect your home and family from robbers or crazies, sure, I can understand that.


Blogger Andy Tyme said...

The social ultra-elite WANT a new civil war in the USA. They desperately hunger for it, some pray for it (to Lucifer, or the "Nine," or maybe the inner "Third
Eye")and the elite's robotic minions (including Alex and all the little Jones Boys) are now working 24-7 to bring about a violent domestic insurrection. An aggressive new gun-confiscation campaign might be an ideal spark to the tinder box.

The elite's federal puppets aren't stockpiling millions of rounds of hollow-point ammo, building hundreds of fusion and detention centres, constructing an enormous monitoring/archiving cyber-snoop network to capture all human communication, and planning to throw the economy over a cliff to bring on food riots, the collapse of the power grid, a breakdown in public sanitation, the spread of pandemic disease and mass chaos because our "leaders" want to spread liberty, prosperity and stability.

Just remember the Georgia Guidestones, or Albert Pike's triple world-war prophecy, or the not-so-satirical Iron Mountain Report... if you prefer not to re-read those dusty ol' Protocols yet another time.

And despite their various blind spots and personal agendas, such mad visionaries as Bill Hicks, Bill Cooper and George Carlin, plus several other recently deceased, modern Jeremiahs, did do their bit to alert us to the maledictions of the "club" that the rest of us could never even hope to join -- and what it's plans for the rest of us really look like.

12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

here is probably the best analyses of this latest massacre:

sandy hook massacre - official story spins out of control

frankly, it makes a VERY good case for the incident to indeed be a massively evil staged psy-op, all for the sake of "taking away guns from Americans", and enacting some sort of martial law, or whatever.

2:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's difficult to know how to respond to such an evidence-free pastiche of generalities and bias-based charges.

Substitute automobiles for guns, and you could say the same thing. Ditto the banking business, and others.

The NRA is an easy target/whipping boy, as is the Rx industry, medical profession, lobbyists (for the NRA.
cigar makers/smokers etc.)

I've done some work for the NRA, so
my views are admittedly biased -- but I welcome the opportunity to respond to a knowledge-based argument against that organization.

6:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Four firefighters were shot — two fatally — as they responded to a large fire early Monday in Webster, N.Y., in the northwestern part of the state.

4 firefighters shot, 2 dead, after responding to blaze

Funny how just as Obama wants to ban all guns that this series of shootings happens when he most needs it?

11:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4 firefighters shot, 2 dead, after responding to blaze

11:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

of course it was a conspiracy. the only proof we have that Nancy Lanza owned firearms was the media saying she did. There is no documentary evidence from the police who would have had to issue a permit after a serious application process that includes a fingerprint check.

8:51 AM  
Blogger SJCP said...

Have you considered the possibility that many of these high-profile massacres *are* staged but that it has to do with much more than gun control?

I think it is virtually undeniable that Aurora and Sandy Hook were government operations of some kind. I think that crying "IS EVERYTHING A CONSPIRACY?" in the case of Aurora is a major offense against Haebus Corpus, because James Holmes (if real) is so obviously innocent that it's insane. Have you looked at Scott Creighton's unbelievable coverage of this case and others?

If you've looked at the research of people like Rolf Zaeschmar ("Starviego"), it's virtually undeniable that most of these shooting attacks are part of some kind of orchestrated campaign. Remember Gladio.


Many right-wingers would have you believe that such acts are orchestrated - or at the very least rather cynically exploited - as a pretext for passing further gun-control legislation. The government wants to scare the people into giving up their right to bear arms, or so the thinking goes. And there is reason to believe that this could well be a goal.

It is not, however, the only - or even the primary - goal, but rather a secondary one at best. The true goal is to further traumatize and brutalize the American people. This has in fact been a primary goal of the state for quite some time, dating back at least to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on that fateful day in Dallas on November 22, 1963.

The strategy is now (as it was then) to inflict blunt force trauma on all of American society, and by doing so to destroy any remaining sense of community and instill in the people deep feelings of fear and distrust, of hopelessness and despair, of isolation and powerlessness. And the results have been, it should be stated, rather spectacular.

With each school shooting, and each act of 'domestic terrorism,' the social fabric of the country is ripped further asunder. The social contracts that bound us together as a people with common goals, common dreams, and common aspirations have been shattered. We have been reduced to a nation of frightened and disempowered individuals, each existing in our own little sphere of isolation and fear.

And at the same time, we have been desensitized to ever rising levels of violence in society. This is true of both interpersonal violence as well as violence by the state, in the form of judicial executions, spiraling levels of police violence, and the increased militarization of foreign policy and of America's borders.

We have become, in the words of the late George Orwell, a society in which "the prevailing mental condition [is] controlled insanity." And under these conditions, it becomes increasingly difficult for the American people to fight back against the supreme injustice of 21st century Western society. Which is, of course, precisely the point.

For a fractured and disillusioned people, unable to find common cause, do not represent a threat to the rapidly encroaching system of global fascism. And a population blinded by fear will ultimately turn to 'Big Brother' to protect them from nonexistent and/or wholly manufactured threats.

As General McArthur stated back in 1957: "Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear ... with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it...."

4:20 PM  
Blogger SJCP said...

I'm tired. If I didn't credit Dave McGowan for that big passage about how these black-ops shooting attacks figure into the "bigger picture", here's the source:

4:21 PM  

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