More 9/11 Sites Are Disappearing
Sad to see Webfairy's site gone, Killtown's site gone, 911review.org gone, etc.
Thankfully blogs persist for the most part.
Purchased websites just don't last if the owner stops paying or gives up, for whatever reason.
I hope the Killtown data survives somewhere at least, I liked his work. Webfairy was more unreliable and made more extreme claims, though she had some useful videos. I think she used to actually host Killtown's work as a backup too, but that's obviously gone now.
And of course, there are so many 9/11 videos that are gone from Youtube, for whatever reason.
Tragic.
Thankfully blogs persist for the most part.
Purchased websites just don't last if the owner stops paying or gives up, for whatever reason.
I hope the Killtown data survives somewhere at least, I liked his work. Webfairy was more unreliable and made more extreme claims, though she had some useful videos. I think she used to actually host Killtown's work as a backup too, but that's obviously gone now.
And of course, there are so many 9/11 videos that are gone from Youtube, for whatever reason.
Tragic.
posted by spooked at 8:49 AM
10 Comments:
webfairy was govt operative whose purpose was to distract from the fact that WTC was destroyed by nukes.
What do you base that claim on?
Not denying, just want clarifying info.
Thanks
>6:42 - i was involved with an intense 9/11 analyzing group of which webfairy was a member. so was nico haupt, but odds are that y'alls never heard of his punk ass.
anyway we all figured out that there were actually no real planes involved in the destruction of the WTC. i mean really, how could a real hollow aluminum tube with a plastic nosecone 767 actually penetrate massive pieces of steel?
anyway, we figured it out and then we're all restless with nothing to do. so webfairy starts a new theory of WTC destruction involving some invisible "directed energy weapon" (DEW). which is patently nonsense.
so here comes spooked's new acquaintance the "anonymous physicist" who has a whole new theory of nuclear demolition of the WTC which IMO cannot be disproved.
so. webfairy was right there with us until someone mentioned nukes upon which she seemed to become literally apoplectic
OK i could go on and on but i think this is enough for now.
james ha..
anyway, spooked, in y'alls opinion did i get most of that pretty much correctly?
tragic? lol more like about time.
few people remember most of lazo aka killtown 'smoking guns' were swiped from a defunct website falloutshelternews.com lazo's rense page still has a link to fsn:
http://www.rense.com/killtown.htm
in addition to being a fraud, lazo manipulated people like dan aka rumple4skin and jack blood to spread conspiracies lazo or his buddies invented like mcclatchey faking her photo or mark humphrey being the harley guy.
rosalee grable aka webfairy died a couple years ago and her family locked down her websites with robot txt so they wouldn't have to deal with conspiracy assholes until the end of time.
@the mighty wak
don't know where you got your info but grable was introduced to the conspiracy community by a libertarian operator fred smart(lazo/killtown is also an active member of the libertarian party). she is credited with finding "proof" that no planes were in the shots and concluding they were "cartoons", then promoted by epic con artist guru fetzer. grable might have pushed dew but she didn't come up with it.
the first person to push dew was at a secret meeting where it was proposed by lovable nazi and holocaust denier, Christopher bollyn in...2002
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2002/fall/risking-their-freedom
both fetzer and bollyn are invested in blaming jews for 911:
https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/assets/pdf/anti-semitism/united-states/911-conspiracy-theories-2011-8-30.pdf
judy wood is best know for dew, which she was probably introduced to by fetzer, the guy who recruited her into the twoofer movement.
haupt is an interesting case. nico was involved with the josh harris 'live in public' project, the entire record of which is in unknown hands, speculation is opportunists have used this footage to blackmail people into doing things they otherwise wouldn't.
no, it's not a government conspiracy: if u were right the government murdered 3,000, all you twoofers would be dead and this website would have been axed long ago. but the alt-right the libertarian party panders to and militia groups do have a history of fraudulent and criminal behavior.
see how real facts destroy these paranoid musings? "killtown" was a fraud. to a lesser extent, so was "webfairy", though grable was clearly delusional, whereas lazo is a pathological liar.
fyi someone told me 'wak' is actually the blog owner sockpuppeting, trying to make the dead truther movement look like it has signs of life.
whatever. it's all over except for the crying.
3:38 AM-- hmmm, interesting story there.
But seriously, I don't sockpuppet. I never have. Mighty wak is my long time commenter here, James Ha. I barely spend any time posting anymore, I'm not interested in trying to keep the truth movement alive. I agree it is dead. Though I still think there are huge discrepancies in the official story.
hope you're still on an island in the middle of the pacific. one too many twoofers have questionable russian/cypriot financial dealings. expect the fbi raids are just getting started.
wow anonymous y'all seems to know quite a bit about all us idiot "twoofers"
i agree with spooked; the truth movement is dead. in fact it never really got off the ground. it's one thing to sit in front of a computer typing out *truths* and outrages,but it's another thing entirely to actually show up at ground zero waving a sign.
anyway anonymous, i am not spooked, i am the *ha the mighty wak*
what are you doing here wasting your time with something that yall obviously finds ridiculous? go back to y'alls miley cyrus fan club.
ha
Anonymous (10:30 AM):
I find it hilarious that you - a skeptic of "conspiracy theories" - is building your narrative around the blog operated by Killtown Secret Archive (killtownsecretarchive.blogspot.com), a defunct blog operated by a mentally unbalanced stalker who based their entire narrative on the fact that "Webfairy" (who never met / knew KT) once made a comment suggesting he and a female truther in Portland were "a couple."
This blog is not given any credibility by "truthers" or most anyone and has in the past posted people's private cell phone numbers and pictures of their social media interactions for the grave sin of either having KT as a guest on their show (truther "SoulReal" had his number outed for inviting him as a guest) or even simply posting on his forum. I know one Montreal-area man who had photos of a rejection by a female classmate posted all over this unhinged blog because he registered at Killtown's forum and was thus viewed as a "collaborator."
You're acting so smug and your basing it all on KSA? Give me a break.
I agree Spooked - it's greatly sad to see so many videos / accounts / posts - literal history - 'disappeared' as it has been.
[comment moderation? lol whatever]
anonymous (6:33 PM) sure is upset. and its been weeks, possibly months!
i had to ask around to remember what killtowns archive was. some truther/anti-truther blog? and you think that's where i got my facts? twoofers fail forever.
many of us knew who killtown was, a long time ago at sceptics(JREF). we thought it strange "unsecured coins" was friends with lazo's girlfriend and were disappointed to discover uc had been actually enabling kkkilltown's conspiracy activities under a pseudonym and at facebook. uc is persona non grata to some, while others make excuses. did webfairy/grable vomit confirmation of kt's girlfriend on a public board? if so, beside the point. mods confirmed the connection with ip addresses.
lazo's identity became public at sceptics in 2010:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5544958&postcount=137
"You didn't point out any facts. And yes... your blaming the jews when there is no evidence they are involved (aliong with your support of Holocaust denier Craig "Killtown" Lazo) makes you an anti-semite."
there was a whole thread dedicated to the nazi troll, but it's been locked and hidden by the mods.
information about fetzer and bollyn come from the adl website. haupt's we live in public is on imdb:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3426316/
the mark humphrey lunacy is discussed here:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193244
" The Harley Guy has been positively identified.
The twoof tards have made extensive use of the now-famous clip of the "Harley Guy" talking to a Faux News reporter about what he witnessed on 9/11. They have even tried to claim that he was an actor named Humphries. "Real people don't talk like that," the twoofers whine.
WRONG.
His name is Mark Walsh and he is a freelance reporter of some sort for Faux News."
there's nothing i wrote connected with this ksa nonsense, unless you're talking about the russian/cypriot connection? and ksa covered this? if so, pure coincidence. maybe you'd like to show what exactly i wrote you think comes from this anti-killtown blog that can't be found elsewhere?
since you bring up mentally ill conspiracy theorists, there is this guy who was institutionalised for making the same conspiratarded accusations that lazo and company engaged in:
http://www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/mark-fisher-detained-huddersfield-paedophilia-8948683
so you're right about one thing: there are unhinged cts out there.
spooked/wak: my apologies for assuming you were socks. ironically it was a twoofer blog that gave me that idea. i should have known better.
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