Humint Events Online: What really happened with Flight 93? A Systematic Analysis

Thursday, August 08, 2024

What really happened with Flight 93? A Systematic Analysis

Note-- I am not considering the "shoot down" hypothesis here because I don't think it fits in any way with the official crash crater. The shoot down idea doesn't help explain the crater, in my opinion, it makes it somewhat less likely, as a crippled plane would have less ability to dive at high speed into the ground and disappearing. And, if there is a "shoot down", it implies a real plane and a real hijacking, which can't be taken for granted. Thus, here I am focusing on what made the crater. Note if the official crash crater site were faked, it is possible a "real" flight was shot down else whereas part of the flight 93 story, but this is a separate aspect of this flight and is not going to be considered here.

So, I am using a point scale to weigh the evidence, pros and cons for the crash site being different from the official story. 

Firmness of evidence on scale of 1-5, where 5 is most solid 


Reasons to think there was a conspiracy and the crash site is fake or different from the official story. 

1)        Operation Northwoods from the 1960s proposed a similar scenario of fake plane crash, false flag operation to incite a war-- 5

2)        Bush/Cheney administration famously secretive and dishonest, lied American into Iraq war-- 5

3)        Overall 9/11 scenario is highly suspect, some degree of coverup is clear—5

4)        Hijacking drills run by US military prior to and on the day of 9/11, made a hoax easier—4

5)        Official crash crater has major issues for being a legitimate 757 crash – 4

6)        weirdness some of with the phone calls, particularly Ed Felt, Todd Beamer—3

7)        official story makes for very good fighting back propaganda on a very terrible day—4

8)        Evidence for twin flight 93’s; ACARS data shows flight continuing; Cleveland airport flight 1989 mystery-- 3

 

 

Plausibility of reasons to believe the official story on scale of 1-5, where 5 is most plausible

 

Reasons to believe the official story

1)        hard to believe such a massive lie from the govt--3

2)        massive coverup would be hard to maintain-- 4

3)        flight 93 families would have to be badly fooled or in on it-- 4

4)        hard to imagine who would carry out this hoax—4

5)        very hard to imagine they could kill everyone elsewhere and plant human remains for everyone --3

 

 

Weighing the pros and cons of a hoax—sums of numerical weighting:

 

Pro-hoax= 33

No hoax= 18

 

Pretty clear the pro-hoax arguments win.

 

Various scenarios that could explain the evidence (and are not the official story):

 

1A) official crash site is total fake mock up of crash site with planted plane parts, some planted human remains, passengers and crew are totally faked personas, many actors involved in phone calls and families; human IDs at crash site are fudged-– hardest to believe, harder to run; explains evidence except a duplicate flight 93

 

1B) official crash site is total fake mock up of crash site with planted plane parts, some planted human remains, real passengers and crew killed elsewhere or taken away to live under new identity, human IDs at crash site are fudged-– plausible but harder to believe, harder to run; explains evidence except a duplicate flight 93

 

1C) official crash site is total fake mock up of crash site with planted plane parts, real passengers and crew killed elsewhere, planted human remains are from actual passengers and crew -– plausible but harder to believe, harder to carry out; explains evidence except a duplicate flight 93

 

 

2) official crash site is actual plane crash, but not a 757 or flight 93; it was a smaller plane or drone, real passengers and crew killed elsewhere, planted human remains – plausible but harder to believe, harder to run; explains evidence except a duplicate flight 93

 

3) official crash site is actual plane crash, but not a 757 or flight 93, it was a smaller plane carrying some official passengers on hijacking drill with real hijackers; other official passengers on actual flight 93 crashed elsewhere and crash covered up, some evidence planted in Shanksville—plausible, explains all evidence

 

4) official crash site is actual plane crash, but not a 757 or flight 93, it was a smaller plane with some official passengers on hijacking drill with real hijackers, other official passengers on actual flight 93 landed elsewhere and passengers and crew killed, body pieces taken and planted at official crash site —less plausible due to having to kill Americans in cold blood, otherwise explains evidence

 

 

Scenario

Crash site

2 planes involved with Hijacking drill

Passengers/crew fate

Extra plane crash

1A

No plane, total fake

No

Fake personas; all body IDs fudged

No

1B

No plane, total fake

No

Real people, killed elsewhere or moved elsewhere, body IDs fudged

No

1C

No plane, total fake

No

Real people, killed elsewhere, parts planted

No

2

Smaller plane, not 757

Maybe

All official passengers and crew killed 

No

3

Smaller plane, not 757

Yes

Some official passengers are on the plane, rest killed in 2nd crash; these body parts planted

Yes

4

Smaller plane, not 757

Yes

Some official passengers are on the plane, rest killed in cold blood; these body parts planted

Yes

 

 I tend to favor scenario 4 overall, I think.

 

Sources:

http://flight93hoax.blogspot.com

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20110427045205/http://killtown.911review.org/flight93.html

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20110428054114/http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/06/shanksville-crater-oddity.html

 

https://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2023/08/revisiting-weird-ed-felt-phone-call-on.html

 

http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2008/04/husband-of-flight-93-attendant-cell.html

 

http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2007/10/todd-beamers-odd-phone-call-and-silent.html

 

http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2007/02/many-misquotes-of-wallace-miller.html

 

http://911woodybox.blogspot.com/2007/02/cleveland-airport-mystery.html

 

http://911woodybox.blogspot.com/2009/09/united-airlines-tracked-different.html

 

http://911woodybox.blogspot.com/2009/09/who-was-male-in-flight-93s-co-pilot.html

 


https://www.911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/photos/index.html#shanksville


https://www.911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/flight93.html 

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