Betty Ong's Call from Flight 11-- More Evidence for Two Different Flight 11s?
A recording of the call made by Flight 11 Attendent Betty Ong and the transcript of the call can be seen here.
Simply put, and with all due respect to these two women, the calls from Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney do not fit together to make a coherent picture.
The largest discrepency is that Betty Ong, who appears to be in Coach Class says that mace was used in Business Class and no one can breath or get up there. However, Amy Sweeney, who apparently was in Business Class, because she allegedly gave the seat numbers for the hijackers, says nothing about mace. This is a major problem.
Ong's call also has none of the dramatics of the way Sweeney's call ended. Overall, both women seem somewhat stressed, but are also fairly calm. Both women talk about passengers being stabbed. Neither attendent refers to the other attendent making a call. Ong seems to give more detail, but also gives the highly improbable info that all the hijackers are in the cockpit. This simply can't be true if there are five hijackers, as were alleged for flight 11.
These discrepencies can be resolved by three basic possibilities:
1) both calls are fake. This does seem somewhat unlikely however, since you would think they would have gotten their stories together better if they were fake calls. But perhaps this is some built-in disinfo in the 9/11 legend-- more on this later.
2) one call is real and one call is fake. But why would they fake one call if they had a bona fide call? Again, this may be some built-in disinfo in the 9/11 legend.
3) there were actually two different flight 11's, and Ong and Sweeney are each on different hijacked flights. This would seem to resolve many if not all of the discrepencies in the two calls. It just leaves the big question of which flight 11 hit the WTC and what happened to the other?
Or both calls were from a single flight 11, which really was hijacked-- just that Sweeney got the hijacker's seat numbers wrong and didn't know smell the mace in business class, AND somehow the hijackers got control of the cockpit without the pilots alerting ATC of a hijacking-- even though was some commotion in the plane since allegedly there were stabbed passengers (who most likely were stabbed before the cockpit was taken over). Conceivably the hijackers could have taken control of the cockpit first, and then the passengers were stabbed when they went to investigate what was going on in the cockpit. Maybe. This still doesn't explain how the hijackers over-powered both pilots in the very small space of the cockpit, without the pilots alerting ATC. And we can't really explain how Sweeney's version doesn't fit.
Very odd, very very odd.
As odd as all this is, this data can be explained by the existence of two different flight 11's each with different hijackers. I'm not saying this is the answer, just that this fits the data best. And Woody Box (see previous post) has a somewhat compelling case for two different flight 11's.
Simply put, and with all due respect to these two women, the calls from Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney do not fit together to make a coherent picture.
The largest discrepency is that Betty Ong, who appears to be in Coach Class says that mace was used in Business Class and no one can breath or get up there. However, Amy Sweeney, who apparently was in Business Class, because she allegedly gave the seat numbers for the hijackers, says nothing about mace. This is a major problem.
Ong's call also has none of the dramatics of the way Sweeney's call ended. Overall, both women seem somewhat stressed, but are also fairly calm. Both women talk about passengers being stabbed. Neither attendent refers to the other attendent making a call. Ong seems to give more detail, but also gives the highly improbable info that all the hijackers are in the cockpit. This simply can't be true if there are five hijackers, as were alleged for flight 11.
These discrepencies can be resolved by three basic possibilities:
1) both calls are fake. This does seem somewhat unlikely however, since you would think they would have gotten their stories together better if they were fake calls. But perhaps this is some built-in disinfo in the 9/11 legend-- more on this later.
2) one call is real and one call is fake. But why would they fake one call if they had a bona fide call? Again, this may be some built-in disinfo in the 9/11 legend.
3) there were actually two different flight 11's, and Ong and Sweeney are each on different hijacked flights. This would seem to resolve many if not all of the discrepencies in the two calls. It just leaves the big question of which flight 11 hit the WTC and what happened to the other?
Or both calls were from a single flight 11, which really was hijacked-- just that Sweeney got the hijacker's seat numbers wrong and didn't know smell the mace in business class, AND somehow the hijackers got control of the cockpit without the pilots alerting ATC of a hijacking-- even though was some commotion in the plane since allegedly there were stabbed passengers (who most likely were stabbed before the cockpit was taken over). Conceivably the hijackers could have taken control of the cockpit first, and then the passengers were stabbed when they went to investigate what was going on in the cockpit. Maybe. This still doesn't explain how the hijackers over-powered both pilots in the very small space of the cockpit, without the pilots alerting ATC. And we can't really explain how Sweeney's version doesn't fit.
Very odd, very very odd.
As odd as all this is, this data can be explained by the existence of two different flight 11's each with different hijackers. I'm not saying this is the answer, just that this fits the data best. And Woody Box (see previous post) has a somewhat compelling case for two different flight 11's.
posted by spooked at 11:02 AM
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The dude is absolutely right, and there is no question.
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