Speaking of TWA Flight 800
(see the post below this)
I have been wondering for some time if the TWA Flight 800 crash, which was most likely brought on by the military firing a surface-to-air missile in some sort of military exercise gone "awry", was actually some early version of 9/11.
Which was this-- the military attacks a civilian target and then idea is to blame it on terrorists and use this as an incitement to war.
This clearly didn't work with flight 800, although there was some connection with flight 800 and the terrorist Ramzi Yousef .
Interestingly, the Oklahoma City bombing can be put in the same mold.
I get the impression that the Oklahoma City bombings and TWA Flight 800 were tests of what sort of incidents would be required for all out war by the US. The US establishment didn't bite for the Oklahoma City bombing and Flight 800-- the casualties weren't enough or perhaps the foreign terror connections were not fully developed enough or they were suppressed for political reasons. Perhaps Clinton simply did not want to get goaded into a war. Or perhaps Clinton had little to do with the decision-- it was made by other elites in the government and the banks and the media. In any case, I think the planning and devastation of 9/11 was calculated to a great degree for what government leaders would accept as a foreign provacation AND what would be required to get the US shocked enough to mobilize public opinion for war.
I think this is clear.
By the way, the '93 WTC attack was probably for establishing the "Arab terrorists are after the US" meme more than providing any pretext for war.
Also, it is really interesting: if you doubt that Arabs were the driving force behind 9/11, you are considered "a conspiracy theorist", while if you think that Arabs/Iraqis were actually involved in the Oklahoma City bombing or the TWA flight 800 crash, you are also considered a conspiracy theorist! The former Conspiracy Theory is derided by conservatives, while the latter Conspiracy Theory is derided by liberals. Of course, this is primarily a reactionary defense of whoever was president at the time (Bush for 9/11, Clinton for OK City and flight 800). The interesting thing to me, is how all three events (9/11, flight 800, and the OK City bombing) all have Arab/Iraqi leads or tangents, but that these tangents were not pursued for flight 800 and the OK City bombing.
I have been wondering for some time if the TWA Flight 800 crash, which was most likely brought on by the military firing a surface-to-air missile in some sort of military exercise gone "awry", was actually some early version of 9/11.
Which was this-- the military attacks a civilian target and then idea is to blame it on terrorists and use this as an incitement to war.
This clearly didn't work with flight 800, although there was some connection with flight 800 and the terrorist Ramzi Yousef .
Interestingly, the Oklahoma City bombing can be put in the same mold.
I get the impression that the Oklahoma City bombings and TWA Flight 800 were tests of what sort of incidents would be required for all out war by the US. The US establishment didn't bite for the Oklahoma City bombing and Flight 800-- the casualties weren't enough or perhaps the foreign terror connections were not fully developed enough or they were suppressed for political reasons. Perhaps Clinton simply did not want to get goaded into a war. Or perhaps Clinton had little to do with the decision-- it was made by other elites in the government and the banks and the media. In any case, I think the planning and devastation of 9/11 was calculated to a great degree for what government leaders would accept as a foreign provacation AND what would be required to get the US shocked enough to mobilize public opinion for war.
I think this is clear.
By the way, the '93 WTC attack was probably for establishing the "Arab terrorists are after the US" meme more than providing any pretext for war.
Also, it is really interesting: if you doubt that Arabs were the driving force behind 9/11, you are considered "a conspiracy theorist", while if you think that Arabs/Iraqis were actually involved in the Oklahoma City bombing or the TWA flight 800 crash, you are also considered a conspiracy theorist! The former Conspiracy Theory is derided by conservatives, while the latter Conspiracy Theory is derided by liberals. Of course, this is primarily a reactionary defense of whoever was president at the time (Bush for 9/11, Clinton for OK City and flight 800). The interesting thing to me, is how all three events (9/11, flight 800, and the OK City bombing) all have Arab/Iraqi leads or tangents, but that these tangents were not pursued for flight 800 and the OK City bombing.
posted by spooked at 9:53 AM
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