Limo Flag
Can see the flags on the front fenders here:
Here is a close-up of the left fender flag (note JFK is grasping his throat here-- just has been shot):
Here is the photo AP is totally obsessed about:
He claims behind that white car, there is a man coming out of a manhole, whose face has been blacked out. I said that there is no man, that is the flag.
Here is a blow-up of the flag:
In the Zapruder film, you can see the flag waving around there.
AP would have us believe somehow the flag on the front left fender of the limo magically disappeared.
Also, check out the photos here. Is there ANY sign of a manhole anywhere in the street before the bypass?
At AP's blog, he accuses me of being an agent over this, and lying about what I said about this. Sadly, AP is totally lying and distorting things. Really really sad.
Here is a close-up of the left fender flag (note JFK is grasping his throat here-- just has been shot):
Here is the photo AP is totally obsessed about:
He claims behind that white car, there is a man coming out of a manhole, whose face has been blacked out. I said that there is no man, that is the flag.
Here is a blow-up of the flag:
In the Zapruder film, you can see the flag waving around there.
AP would have us believe somehow the flag on the front left fender of the limo magically disappeared.
Also, check out the photos here. Is there ANY sign of a manhole anywhere in the street before the bypass?
At AP's blog, he accuses me of being an agent over this, and lying about what I said about this. Sadly, AP is totally lying and distorting things. Really really sad.
posted by spooked at 7:41 PM
15 Comments:
Instead of arguing the "man in the manhole" view of the world, why is no one explaining what happened to the Presidential Standard on the front left fender of the presidential limo?
Now there's a conspiracy!
i doubt that JFK could be grasping his throat after having a bullet blow the back of his head off. j
the throat shot was before the head shot-- you can see JFK grasping his throat in the Z film
oh i never realized he was shot more than once.
ok IMO your analyses clearly shows that is a flag and not mr. sneaky man with a rifle popping up out of a manhole to shoot JFK. even if it was mr. sneaky man he couldn't possibly have drawn a bead on JFK from that angle. j
J-- thanks, and exactly! Assuming the driver Greer shot Kennedy, as AP promotes, what's the big deal about this dude in an extremely awkward position (who no one saw) anyway? How could he have possibly shot Kennedy, unless he did have a bazooka and blew up the whole car? But come on...
But the fact is, the flag on the front left fender is in fact the flag. It looks like a fluttering flag and we know there was a flag there.
Spook, aka flagman forever more, you have proven yourself to be a spook for a DOZEN different reasons, some of which were detailed here in comments--and at my blog.
It was stated that this horseshit-- flagman--was just the last straw.
Spook, you are also proving to be the stupidest fraud in the anti-truth field.
1. Obviously there is no flagpole. And no flag.
2. The man is clearly much larger than the flag would be. You can ignore this and everything else important with your bullshit.
3. We can see his right arm extended, we can even see what looks like some gear around his waste on the right side.
4. Why the flag isn't there is irrelevant to what IS there. It could have been shot off, but is irrelevant to what is clearly there--a man.
5. You can keep saying black is white, or there is a flagpole or whatever your masters tell you to say. Only your fellow travelers will see what you tell them to see--which clearly isn't there--the flag, or the flagpole.
6. Intel idiot, by your stupid two arrows, you HAVE ACTUALLY PROVEN THAT THERE IS NO FLAG THERE! AS IT SHOULD BE BETWEEN YOUR 2 STUPID ARROWS! Thanks for proving the case against yourself.
7. You had a week for this stupid ANALysis. And so again thanks for proving there is no flag there.
This is really bad, your one fellow agent/asshole with his fictitious, "fat, Jewish wife" who mirrors you, and who you write this blog for is less than meaningless.
Perp, I made clear the history of this picture and its cropping out of the man, etc in most books, etc.
No reason to crop out a flag or to alter the man's face.
And then there are the matters of the brake lights on and who was in the car. You are the first I believe to come up with the idiotic NON-EXISTENT flag. What kind of controller do you have?
But thanks for proving what you are. Anyone who sees that man as the flag is as corrupt as you are.
Almost everything you write these last 2-3 years shows you for what you are. A constant liar, and disinfo intel agent. And a promoter of all the other disinfo agents.
QED
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8. Note in the 2nd photo of this post, the flag is lined up along the length of the limo. This is the case in other photos.
As long as there is any significant speed or acceleration, this is how that flag lined up. And when the photo in question was taken, the limo was undergoing great acceleration.
And the man is to the left, as opposed to the length of the limo being on the right in the photo. Just another point proving that the man could not possibly be the flag.
Risible intel crap from Spook aka flagman.
First off, I do not need to prove it is the flag, when it obviously is the flag. AP needs to prove it is a man, which he has failed to do. Even worse, AP has not explained what happened with the flag, which would obviously be in that position!!!! This is why this whole argument is simply absurd.
"1. Obviously there is no flagpole. And no flag."
The lower arrow shows the flagpole. You can also see the point of the pole on top of the blow-up. You are just asserting without proof, your viewpoint.
"2. The man is clearly much larger than the flag would be. You can ignore this and everything else important with your bullshit."
Prove that that "the man" is clearly much larger than the flag would be.
"3. We can see his right arm extended, we can even see what looks like some gear around his waste on the right side."
An oddly shaped right arm it is, and the only gear I see is what is likely the braided rope from the flag.
"4. Why the flag isn't there is irrelevant to what IS there. It could have been shot off, but is irrelevant to what is clearly there--a man."
Pure nonsense. Of course why the flag seems to have disappeared and a man in that exact spot is about as relevant as anything else here.
"5. You can keep saying black is white, or there is a flagpole or whatever your masters tell you to say. Only your fellow travelers will see what you tell them to see--which clearly isn't there--the flag, or the flagpole."
Not sure why you are hung up on the pole. The flag was almost even with the car, so there wasn't much pole. But you can see pole both on top and bottom if you use your eyes and not your incredible bias.
"6. Intel idiot, by your stupid two arrows, you HAVE ACTUALLY PROVEN THAT THERE IS NO FLAG THERE! AS IT SHOULD BE BETWEEN YOUR 2 STUPID ARROWS! Thanks for proving the case against yourself."
This makes no sense.
"7. You had a week for this stupid ANALysis. And so again thanks for proving there is no flag there."
Not even worth rebutting.
"8. Note in the 2nd photo of this post, the flag is lined up along the length of the limo. This is the case in other photos.
As long as there is any significant speed or acceleration, this is how that flag lined up. And when the photo in question was taken, the limo was undergoing great acceleration.
And the man is to the left, as opposed to the length of the limo being on the right in the photo. Just another point proving that the man could not possibly be the flag."
In the top picture, the flag is clearly veering to the side of the car. It of course flags can wave in the wind.
"You are the first I believe to come up with the idiotic NON-EXISTENT flag."
The flag was THERE obviously, when the limo started on its journey. See the first picture. How fucking stupid can you get????
Call me intel until your face turns blue, but you are so wrong on this, it is more sad than laughable.
""We can see his right arm extended,""
that is a cross-piece to the pole, (which has an arrow pointing to it), also known as a boom for the mast, like a sail boat has.
it is easy to spot in the front view of the limo.
it keeps the flag spread out so everyone can see the logo, including the braid (which also has an arrow pointing to it).
Spook.
Thanks for having a non-rebuttal as a rebuttal.
You did not negate anything .
Furthermore, it is worse than I thought for your non-case!
1. The top thing sure is no part of a flag. Pure fraud on your part.
You can point an arrow at an amoeba and call it an elephant, and only your fellow shills will go for that. This is more of your saying black is white. So your top arrow points to no part of a flag, whatever those dots are.
2. Even what u r claiming is the bottom piece of the flagpole is not. Your thing is at the very end of the limo. But photos of the limo show the flags are not at the very end of the limo.
and 3. It is well known and proven that at the time of the photo the limo was undergoing significant acceleration, and so any flag would have to be on the left, and not the right where the man is.
You may believe u r adept at deception, and evasion, but u r not.
You just are a simple, stupid liar.
QED. Total fraud.
Spook:
You are out. You are done
Sorry, above I misstated.
As per my original, any flag would have to be on the right--along the length of the limo--as it is in other pics while the limo is moving or especially accelerating.
While the man is on the left, and so cannot possibly be the flag!
And the idiot at 10:25 has helped prove the case against Spook/Flagman.
There was no "cross-piece" used. As 19:25 indicates, no part of the flag could be there!! And also be so straight.
That is the man's arm, and not part of a ludicrous flag.
And as per the above, any part of the flag would have to be on the right, not the left.
And it clearly is a man, and clearly is no "flag." A risible fraud being attempted.
After nearly 50 years and countless researchers, no other researcher, or intel shill for that matter, has dared to promulgate this load of crap.
An intel perp has been outed!!
You are out, you are done.
Spook aka Flagman.
I would like to think people could reasonably disagree about evidence, and that is certainly the scientific method to allow debate and arguments, without resorting to personal attacks.
But actually, there is nothing scientific in the way AP is approaching this. It's like he is running his personal cult, where NO ONE DARES TO QUESTION HIM, or else they are excommunicated from the cult of AP.
Well, fuck off, AP. You can go run your cult without posting your bullshit here.
I have tolerated this idiocy for a while, mostly just so everyone can see what AP has debased to. Further if I start deleting his comments, he would rant how I am censoring him and this proves he is an agent and so forth.
But from hereon, I will delete idiotic comments from AP.
""from hereon, I will delete idiotic comments from AP.""
excellent.
and that is obviously a flag with an obvious crossbar and it is obviously on the driver's side of the black limo in the 2nd photo (photographed from the front).
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