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Saturday, December 24, 2016

There Is Some Very Deep Creepy Shit Going on with Trump and Nukes

An important piece from Sarah Kendzior--
On Dec. 22, president-elect Donald Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin both announced that they intend to increase their respective countries’ nuclear arsenals. Their use of language eerily paralleled each other. “The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes,” Trump tweeted. “Russia should fortify its military nuclear potential and develop missiles that can penetrate any missile-defense system,” Putin said at a defense ministry meeting. 
The joint statements set off speculation that the United States and Russia are planning an increase in nuclear capacity that is in stark contrast to standard anti-proliferation policy. This is an erroneous interpretation. Trump and Putin aren’t heading to war with each other—they’re heading to war together. 
Trump is a vociferous defender and admirer of Putin and is suspected by multiple intelligence experts of being assisted and even co-opted by the Kremlin. Russian interference in the US election has been affirmed by multiple US intelligence agencies and has led to calls for a congressional investigation. Rather than engaging in an arms race against each other, Trump and Putin are possibly teaming up as nuclear partners against shared targets. 
Sound fantastical? It’s not: Trump has been obsessed with nuclear weapons for several decades, and has expressed his desire to coordinate with Russia on nuclear policy since the 1980s. In 1984 Trump, backed by Roy Cohn, the political operative who advised Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon, proclaimed his goal of negotiating nuclear deals with the Soviets: “It would take an hour-and-a-half to learn everything there is to learn about missiles,” Trump said. “I think I know most of it anyway. You’re talking about just getting updated on a situation… You know who really wants me to do this? Roy… I’d do it in a second.” 
This rhetoric mirrors Trump’s current rejection of expert advice and conviction that his instinct is enough to guide policy. (“I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things,” he said in March 2016 when asked whom he consults on foreign affairs.) During the 2016 US presidential campaign, Trump refused to look at intelligence briefings or collaborate with anyone outside his inner circle. This advisory team is comprised of corporate raiders, warmongers, and white supremacists, some of whom—like his nominee for secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, or national security advisor, Michael Flynn—are personally tied to Putin as well. 
In 1987, Trump made his goal of Russian collaboration on nuclear power explicit: The Soviet Union and the US should partner to form a nuclear superpower with the intention of intimidating other countries into dropping their own nuclear plans. “Most of those [pre-nuclear] countries are in one form or another dominated by the US and the Soviet Union,” Trump told journalist Roy Rosenbaum. “Between those two nations you have the power to dominate any of those countries. So we should use our power of economic retaliation and they use their powers of retaliation, and between the two of us we will prevent the problem from happening. It would have been better having done something five years ago. But I believe even a country such as Pakistan would have to do something now. Five years from now they’ll laugh.” 
When Rosenbaum suggested Pakistan would not respond favorably to this policy, Trump laughed: “Maybe we should offer them something. I’m saying you start off as nicely as possible. You apply as much pressure as necessary until you achieve the goal. You start off telling them, ‘Let’s get rid of it.’ If that doesn’t work you then start cutting off aid. And more aid and then more. You do whatever is necessary so these people will have riots in the street, so they can’t get water. So they can’t get Band-Aids, so they can’t get food. Because that’s the only thing that’s going to do it—the people, the riots.” 
Trump then suggested that the US and Russia jointly apply the same policy of brutal sanctions on US allies like France. 
1987 was also the first year Trump visited Russia, which was then part of the Soviet Union. In 1988, he attempted to meet with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, reportedly to sell him on his nuclear plan. This meeting never happened. At this time, Trump also began proclaiming his presidential ambitions and taking out newspaper advertisements harshly criticizing US foreign policy. 
While Trump’s obsession with nuclear weapons, calls for riots, rejection of expert advice, and deference to Russian leaders has remained consistent since the 1980s, his position on the use of nuclear weapons has changed. Originally, Trump proposed his nuclear partnership with Russia as an unusual form of deterrence. 
In 2016, however, he repeatedly stated his goal to use nuclear weapons on other countries. In an interview with Chris Matthews in April, Trump said the use of nuclear weapons may be necessary under certain circumstances. When pressed to elaborate by a startled Matthews, Trump continued: “Then why are we making them? Why do we make them?” 
He went on to say he would consider using nuclear weapons on Europe and the Middle East. 
On Aug. 3, after a week marked by a series of scandals including Trump asking Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails during what would be his final press conference, MSNBC host Joe Scarborough expressed his own belief that that Trump was obsessed with using nuclear weapons in an exchange with Mike Barnacle: 
Scarborough: I’ll be careful here. Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump, and three times he asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked, at one point, “If we have them, why can’t we use them?” 
Barnicle: Wow. 
Scarborough: That’s one of the reasons why he has—he just doesn’t have foreign policy experts around him. 
Barnicle: Trump? Trump asked three times whether we can use nuclear weapons? Scarborough: Three times in an hour briefing, “Why can’t we use nuclear weapons?” 
At the time, Scarborough seemed deeply alarmed by Trump’s plans. On Aug 22, Trump threatened to reveal secret information about Scarborough and his co-host Mika Brzezinski. A few weeks later, the hosts met with Trump and have since providing flattering coverage of the president-elect. 
Scarborough appears to be the sole media figure Trump informed on his new nuclear policy, which Scarborough paraphrased on Dec. 23 as “Let it be an arms race because we will outmatch them at every pass and outlast them all.”It is unclear who “them” is in this situation—and the phrasing is likely very alarming for countries around the world. 
But given Trump’s affection for and connection to the Kremlin—one the Kremlin itself has confirmed—and the fact that the US and Russia have now promoted nearly identical foreign policies (and also appear to be pursuing a series of financial arrangements in the gas and oil industry that benefit billionaires of both states), it is unlikely that the US is preparing to engage in a nuclear arms race against Russia. 
Trump may have found the nuclear partner in Putin he has been seeking for decades. In Trump, Putin may have found a willing accomplice who will back Russian imperialistic ambitions and drop sanctions, among other benefits. 
This is the new mutually assured destruction: the two states with the most nuclear weapons in the world, both backed by authoritarian leaders, may be partnering against as-yet unknown shared enemies. 
Their rhetoric alone is dangerous, and an actual increase in nuclear arsenals more so. In a worst case scenario, the end target of Trump and Putin’s destructive ambitions could ultimately be the entire world.

Trump is almost certainly a Russian agent of some sort.

This whole creepy-ass shit enhances the idea that Russia helped ensure Trump election.

It doesn't help that Trump has a very weak character, and has some very bizarre and obsessive personality traits.

He's also a eugenecist, and has ties to white supremacists.

He also fits the "dark triad" personality trait, which is a sign of severe psychopathy.

And he apparently has a willingness to use nukes. It really couldn't be more disturbing.

To put it quite simply, he's a fucking sociopathic madman.

So-- to what end is all of this madness?

I talked about it here-- how having joint control of world-wide nukes is a fucking horrifying world-ending event:

Remember the deep ultimate conspiracy postulated here by Anonymous Physicist -- that there are evil aliens controlling us, and they are quarantined here on planet earth by other aliens.  The evil aliens really want to  break out of quarantine and get off earth, and to do this, they need nuclear weapons. 

While this probably sounds sort of crazy, it is still a fascinating idea that can explain a number of other conspiracy issues such as Apollo moon landing fakery, UFO's, and why things are so fucked up here on earth.

I'm not saying the evil alien-quarantine theory is an absolute fact, but it's a useful model to work with.

But I have some additional ideas on this model.

The evil PTB would need most of the nukes on earth for their purpose of breaking out of quarantine. But the problem is, right now, most of the nukes are controlled by two countries: US and Russia. The nukes are pointed to earth, but really what is need is to point the nukes at the atmosphere of the planet, to the outer edge where the quarantine ships are, to disable them. That would mean total control of all the US-Russian nukes, and to be able to re-direct them.

With different governments in opposition to each other this would be impossible.

But if US and Russia became friendly, and allied militarily, their nukes could be tied to one controller.

Who favors closer relations with Russia and the US? Trump and Putin, of course.

Who would block such a union? Hillary, of course.

So Hillary could be saving us from the ultimate horror scenario of the atmosphere getting nuked, essentially destroying life on the planet.

Keep in mind that Hillary wanted UFO disclosure as president, which had some real possibility of uncovering the ultimate evil PTB. That didn't happen, and now we have a president-elect, who has ties with and is making nice with Russia.

Conspiracy types typically portray Hillary as the one hell-bent on starting a nuclear war with Russia, but to me, that isn't plausible. I don't buy that she is that evil, in willing to kill almost everyone on the planet.

You know who seems like a true psychopath to me?

Donald J. Trump


Blogger the mighty wak said...

actually trump suggested that the U.S. update their nukes, not increase the number of them. and why would trump necessarily be putin's puppet, and not putin being a western puppet? both of those scenarios are equally dumb. U.S. official guys are not about to let trump get away with anything, certainly not launching a nuclear war.
and if there are indeed evil aliens pulling the strings then it doesn't really matter who the president is, does it.

hillary stated flat out that if she were elected, the U.S. would attack iran.
her intentions didn't really get any clearer than that.

11:39 PM  
Blogger the mighty wak said...

in trump's own words:

Asked whether the U.S. should be the first to launch a nuke during a confrontation with an enemy, Trump said that should be the “absolute last step.”

“It’s a very scary nuclear world,” he added. “Biggest problem, to me, in the world, is nuclear, and proliferation.”

“I will have a military that’s so strong and powerful, and so respected, we’re not gonna have to nuke anybody,” he said, adding that he would be “amazingly calm under pressure.”

ya trump is the scary one?
i didn't notice you (spooked) complaining when obama with hillary at his side fully destroyed libya, continued to fuck up afghanistan and iraq, and totally bent over backwards allowing uncle shmuel's best pals the saudis to attack and torture yemen and their innocent civilians.
how about google saudi (U.S. very best pals!) atrocities - they routinely throw adulterous females off high-rise roofs, not to mention the punishment they mete out to gay-boys.
isn't the DNC all about tolerating the gals and the gay-boys?

ya, shame on trump.

5:18 PM  
Blogger the mighty wak said...

""Scarborough seemed deeply alarmed by Trump’s plans.""

Scarborough? really? isn't he the very same pundit that
was deeply alarmed by obama's plans?


hey brother man, remember when two giant 110 story steel/concrete
towers were rendered into total dust in only 10 seconds each?

that's what this blog was all about, not some queerbaits like trump or hillary.

2:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Scarborough the same Joe whose FL. Congressional office staffer was found dead there? Joe had allegedly been diddling her and has long been suspected of having something to do with sending her to Jesus?

6:36 PM  
Blogger the mighty wak said...

@6:36 pm.
and there it is. and the sumbitch still has his own TV show.

7:04 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

the mighty wak -- don't fucking normalize Trump. He is a monster of a much higher level of Obama or Hillary. Sorry you don't see it and I'm sorry you missed the point of this post.

12:20 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

and yes, this post was about who controls nukes, a big deal. And yes, the WTC towers were nuked, but we have more pressing issues now.

12:22 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

"hillary stated flat out that if she were elected, the U.S. would attack iran."

No she didn't. That is a lie.

Trump however, has repeatedly talked about attacking Iran.

12:23 PM  
Blogger the mighty wak said...

hillary: if i'm president we will attack iran

so how is this a lie?

5:11 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

First that link doesn't work.

Second it's a lie because it's deeply misleading. The only time she said anything like that is in the context of Iran attacking Israel, a hypothetical situation and it wouldn't be surprising if the US retaliated in such a situation, It's our freaking standard policy.

1:05 PM  

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