The Rudder Clue
Videos of "UA175" showed it making a hard turn portwards right before it struck the South tower. Turns on an airplane are executed in part by extending the rudder to the side to which you want to turn. For the last-second high-speed turn that UA175 made, one would expect the rudder to be fully extended port-wards.
Here is an image of UA175 extracted from the "CNN Best Angle" footage. Most videos agree that the plane was still banking as it hit the tower, and this video shows the last one or two seconds before impact. Thus the rudder should be extended in this video.
In this image taken from the beginning of the video, the tail section is very clear but I see no sign of the rudder being extended:
UPDATE: Marcus Icke tells me that at high-speed, the rudder would not need to be extended far to execute a turn. But he also says at the estimated speeds for UA175 (540 mph), the control flaps would likely have ripped off the plane.
Part of my thinking here was that in the last frenzied seconds of a suicide mission, a real-life suicide pilot making a desperate last-second turn would turn the controls maximally to avoid missing the tower-- thus fully extending the rudder.
If such a thing did happen in real-life, it does seems likely that the rudder would be ripped off.
It seems very unlikely to me that the last second banking turn made by "UA175" would be a gentle, controlled maneuver.
Here is an image of UA175 extracted from the "CNN Best Angle" footage. Most videos agree that the plane was still banking as it hit the tower, and this video shows the last one or two seconds before impact. Thus the rudder should be extended in this video.
In this image taken from the beginning of the video, the tail section is very clear but I see no sign of the rudder being extended:
UPDATE: Marcus Icke tells me that at high-speed, the rudder would not need to be extended far to execute a turn. But he also says at the estimated speeds for UA175 (540 mph), the control flaps would likely have ripped off the plane.
Part of my thinking here was that in the last frenzied seconds of a suicide mission, a real-life suicide pilot making a desperate last-second turn would turn the controls maximally to avoid missing the tower-- thus fully extending the rudder.
If such a thing did happen in real-life, it does seems likely that the rudder would be ripped off.
It seems very unlikely to me that the last second banking turn made by "UA175" would be a gentle, controlled maneuver.
posted by spooked at 7:47 AM
7 Comments:
hmmm. it looks as if somebody has pinched the rudder right off of that plane doesn't it?
hey pinch, you are an air-force pilot are you not? what's up with that?
hey pinch remember when you were drunk driving your plane and you chopped your wingman's wing off or whatever your little scenario was?
it's too bad that your plane wasn't made of massive steel wtc box columns, then your wingman's wing would've destroyed it entirely!
hey how come when the massive steel at the top of the 1/4 mile high wtcs 1&2 hit the ground it didn't so much as scratch the foundation? wow that sure was a stroke of luck wasn't it? now they can build their new and improved trillion dollar tower action without having to rebuild the foundation! golly what are the odds?
What are you trying to say ha?
That the towers were destroyed on purpose so that someone could pay some of their friends a trillion dollars to build new ones?
No one is that callous that they would put money over innocent human lives.
And are we supposed to believe that the 20 Arabs were only scapegoats and that the war on terror is the result of a simple frame up?
Why in the world would the U.S. Government put itself in debt for more trillions of dollars just to kill a bunch of terrorists in the middle east?
Are we supposed to believe that the U.S. is doing that simply to pay those trillions of dollars to some defense contractors or something?
Again, no one is so callous as to put money over human lives.
ha, you should be made to explain yourself.
ms. thorn you seem to have summed it up just fine - i couldn't have put it any better really!
"Again, no one is so callous as to put money over human lives."
Criminals do it every day.
ya thorn! do you think that the u.s. govt is above that kind of behavior? what if some kind of crime syndicate managed to weasel themselves into positions of authority by somehow manipulating public opinion - what kind of crimes would you imagine that they would be satisfied with? petty larceny? not. they would do everything in their power to skode every dime they could from all over the world, all the while continuing to manipulate public opinion and somehow managing to remain looked upon as "the good guys".
Besides, it ain't the governments Trillions that get wasted here.
exactly my point! the u.s. govt is borrowing these trillions that the tax-payers will have to pay off (or the economy will tank) and spending it awarding contracts to their peers. case in point:
the carlyle group.
Hydraulic pressure to the rudder is reduced at high flight speeds to limit deflection, which could cause a control surface damage or separation. No mystery here.
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