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Monday, January 29, 2007

Dimensions of the Flight 93 Official Crash Crater: Proof No Boeing 757 Crashed There

Using the pictures here, I finally decided to get a solid estimate for the flight 93 official crash crater. I used the men on the ground next to the crater in the various pictures to estimate the crater size, and assumed each man was 6 feet tall.

UA93 officially was a Boeing 757. A Boeing 757 (the plane UA93 was officially) has a 125 foot wingspan, and the engines are 43 feet apart (measuring from the middle of each engine looking at the front of the plane).

The problem is that the 93 crash crater shows only 30 feet-- at MOST-- between engine scars:

Note-- diagram is for illustrative purposes and is not drawn perfectly to scale.

Considering that the a plane HAD to have come down with both engines hitting roughly the same time on the ground to produce the observed crash scar, I submit the 30 foot distance between engines as proof no Boeing 757 crashed to make this crater.

44 Comments:

Anonymous Dieter said...

I submit the 4 inch distance between your ears as proof none of your opinions really matter. Just kidding.

10:55 AM  
Blogger Killtown said...

But, but, but, where are all papapassenggggers???

;-)

Good going Spooked (as usually)!

My favorite part is the "V" shaped wing impressions that were left in the ground! "V"??? :-P

And of course the big heavy vertical tail only left a faint impression in the grass, but they miraculously "vanished"!

12:03 PM  
Anonymous Killington said...

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12:33 PM  
Anonymous lawndart of truth said...

"yesterday the cleveland airport officials, cincinnati WCPO Channel 9 and myself informed the world that uaflight93 had landed safely at cleveland airport. today we are forced to retract that statement as CNN and FOXnews have since informed us that we were mistaken.
i am sorry for any inconvenience that i have caused CNN and FOXnews."
~Cleveland Mayor Michael R. White on 9/12/01

1:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey moonbats, they're making fun of you over conspiracy smasher again.

4:58 PM  
Anonymous i heart conspiracy smasher's wife! said...

they're making fun of you over conspiracy smasher again

well if he wasn't such a moron they couldn't make fun of us over him could they?

5:17 PM  
Anonymous i eat moonbats for breakfast said...

great work Spooked!

one would think it'd be obvious that a plane didn't crash in shanksville. KT has done some fantastic work on this, my personal favorite being his work (and rumpl4skin's?) on the smoke plume. not only has KT shown that the smoke plume is likely to be shopp'd, but he also has shown it looks identical to ordinance blasts.

ofcourse, one would also think this might be obvious to our scholars...

Evidence: The Crash of Flight 93

guess again, moonbats! the scholars spend more time supporting the OGCT than they do debunking it. and i think that's one of the reasons no plane argument fries their nuts so much-- because once you really all the sides of the no plane argument, you see how many pieces 'evidence' fall away. there are many variants on the no plane argument, but all take substantial bites out of the mainstream movements arguments, such as the ones presented in EGLS...

whats that? no planes in the sky so NORAD has nothing to 'stand down' too?

whats that? no planes in the sky so Minetta testimony is worthless?

whats what? no planes so no hijackers training at military bases?

maybe not exactly true above but my basic point is that once you take out the planes you can take out other significant 'pieces of evidence'.

i am just fed it with controlled movements, phony scholars, and people unwilling to 'think outside the box' for once.

hey you phonies at 911clogger.com, they don't call it the big lie for nuthin'

5:21 PM  
Anonymous moonbats for life said...

Air Force pursuing antimatter weapons?

5:42 PM  
Blogger Conspiracy Smasher said...

"Proof No Boeing 757 Crashed There"

Then why is it that only you and a handful of mouth-breathers seem to agree? The world is ignoring your stupidity. How does that makes you feel?

10:07 PM  
Anonymous jim said...

There is no plane in that hole. Period.

11:25 PM  
Anonymous i heart conspiracy smasher's wife! said...

The world is ignoring your stupidity. How does that makes you feel?

the world may have its collective head up its ass about 9/11 but that doesn't mean the official govt 9/11 fairytale holds any water.

hey conspiracy smasher! there is no 757 in that stupid campfire of a hole in the ground @ shanksville is there?
why haven't you addressed that?

11:36 PM  
Blogger Conspiracy Smasher said...

Yes, there is. Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller identified the remains of every single person on the plane, which hit the ground going over 500 miles per hour. Facts my little friend, facts...

7:46 AM  
Anonymous i heart conspiracy smasher's wife! said...

you use the word "facts" as you are just making something up!

to the contrary my little friend,
the Somerset county coroner, Wallace Miller,
had this to say:

"This is the most eerie thing. I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop. I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. There was just nothing visible. It was the strangest feeling."

there is no debris from a 757 in that stupid campfire of a hole in the ground at shanksville.

10:27 AM  
Blogger Conspiracy Smasher said...

Why oh, why do you conspiracy clowns keep repeating already debunked nonsense? Read and learn...:


Evidence For: Before United 93 crashed smack-dab into his jurisdiction, Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller was probably most known for being a local Civil War buff. But today, he's known nationally as the official who implied that there were no bodies on the plane that crashed into a Shanksville, Pennsylvania field.

"This is the most eerie thing," he told a Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reporter for an article on the first anniversary of the attacks. "I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop."

Bermas, of Loose Change, says, "If you look at pictures of the crash site in Shanksville, there's no evidence of a crash. No parts from an airplane. No body parts. Just a hole in the ground with some tiny bits of metal. Š Then the government shows us a bandana that one of the hijackers wore, which they said was recovered from the crash site. It's folded perfectly. No blood on it. It looks like the government is manufacturing evidence."

Evidence Against: Miller is still the coroner. Last week, he was found at his funeral home, pulling dandelions from his lawn.

A tall, lanky fellow, Miller is at first hesitant to speak on the subject. But then the anger spills over.

"It's all bullshit," says Miller. "I'm not saying I was misquoted, but the quote was taken out of context. There were pieces of people. Trust me. I cleaned it up. The plane hit the ground doing 575 miles per hour. The rest of the remains were vaporized on impact. But we did ID everyone onboard."

10:36 AM  
Anonymous i heart conspiracy smasher's wife! said...

oh i see. so we read his original words: "there were no bodies..." and we see photos of a stupid campfire-like crater with no 757 debris anywhere, and we realize that the shanksville aspect of 9/11 holds no more truth than does the pentagon or wtc aspects of 9/11.
then we have mr or mrs conspiracy smasher telling us that coroner miller changed his tune at some point as if that changes the photos of the stupid campfire-like crater where there was no 757 debris as well.

you'll forgive me if i once again state for the record that conspiracy smasher is full of shit.

11:42 AM  
Anonymous i heart conspiracy smasher's wife! said...

"The plane hit the ground doing 575 miles per hour. The rest of the remains were vaporized on impact. But we did ID everyone onboard."

all the remains were vaporized on impact (that must be why there are no remains in evidence in the photos right?)
yet we identified the remains of everyone on board.

and you expect people to believe that.
unreal.
i suspect that even you don't believe that.

11:54 AM  
Blogger Spooked said...

Miller still having his job is entirely consistent with him supporting the official story.

And all they found were little pieces of skin, which could have been planted.

12:07 PM  
Anonymous jim said...

I've asked this before, but never seemed to get an answer. Did one single family member of anyone on the four planes ever get a BODY back? Any of them? Just one?

12:24 PM  
Anonymous reno said...

"Did one single family member of anyone on the four planes ever get a BODY back? Any of them? Just one?"

Good gravy man, how stupid are you? When your body is travelling at 575 MPH and hits a solid object, it will be turned into instant hamburger.

1:12 PM  
Anonymous jim said...

Every single one huh with no exceptions. Did they turn into instant hamburger when the melted into the WTC 1 and 2? When they hit the "soft ground" in PA that swallowed the plane but vaporized the bodies? Vaporized on contact when it hit the Pentagon yet the NIST report says most body remains were found near the exit hole? Is vaporization an ongoing process?

2:00 PM  
Anonymous you are not fooling anyone! said...

"When your body is travelling at
575 MPH and hits a solid object, it will be turned into instant hamburger."

and that's probably the only accurate thing that reno has said on this blog to date.

why is there no 757 debris in the photos of this obviously phony 757 crash site?
we can see the official dupes in their official yellow dupe jackets looking for debris so it's not as if the photos were taken after all the debris was removed.

was the 757 debris officially vaporized or did the 757 officially plunge all the
way into the ground like a lawn dart (and thus entirely out of sight) or was the 757 debris officially scattered about for miles around?
all of these have been the official bullshit at one time or another and all 3 of these bullshit fables can and have been picked apart and proven to be the bullshit that the govt/media 9/11 fairytale is.

2:03 PM  
Anonymous ha, j. said...

6 years from now we will no doubt still be here lamenting the fact that 9/11 was an obvious inside job and reno and associates will no doubt still be here pretending that it wasn't.

2:21 PM  
Anonymous Ningen said...

"The world is ignoring your stupidity. How does that makes you feel?"

I would rather the whole world laugh at me, spit on me, or kick me in the balls than to acquiesce in a murderous lie. So take your conformity shit back to high school were you belong. Punk.

2:55 PM  
Anonymous ha. said...

hey good for you ningen!
that's exactly how i feel.
i have absolutely no fear of the world in general and skode-ass bloggers in particular passing any sort of judgement upon me.
me, i can sleep at night just fine!

4:15 PM  
Blogger Democrat said...

The remains were identified.

Of course, just pick scraps of unknown DNA from a hole in the ground with some junk yard pieces in it, and pick a name from the passenger list until you've got them all.

do as you're told!.

It's a classic.

Please feel free to stick to the herd of sheeple, just follow the asshole in front of you. It's normal that only a small percentage of human beings actually do a little thinking of their own.

6:07 PM  
Anonymous lonesome dave said...

"It's normal that only a small percentage of human beings actually do a little thinking of their own."

And there we have it ladies and gents, another arrogant stupid person implying that only his small cabal of like-minded paranoids knows what's going on in this world. The sad thing is, they have no idea how pathetic they really are.

9:41 PM  
Anonymous there is no airplane. said...

"...another arrogant stupid person implying that only his small cabal of like-minded paranoids knows what's going on in this world. The sad thing is..."

way to go lonesome dave!
gotta keep people's attention off of the fallacies and discrepancies that are the official 9/11 fairytale and focused right where the attention belongs, right?
right.

11:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's no plane crash in Shanksville, and there's no evidence of one. It's just government propaganda. Plain and simple.

Fred

1:18 AM  
Anonymous reno said...

"There's no plane crash in Shanksville, and there's no evidence of one."

You're quite right, except for the fact that the NTSB said there was a crash based on the evidence from their investigators, DNA from all the victims were found at the site, there was crash wreckage at the site, eyewitnesses to the crash site tell of massive debris. Oh, and the eyewitness to the crash as well:

The fate of United Airlines Flight 93, the last of the four hijacked planes to go down in the United States on 11 September, holds no mystery for Lee Purbaugh. He saw what happened with his own eyes. He was the only person present in the field where, at 10.06am, the aircraft hit the ground.

"There was an incredibly loud rumbling sound and there it was, right there, right above my head — maybe 50ft up," says Purbaugh, who works at a scrapyard overlooking the crash site. "It was only a split second but it looked like it was moving in slow motion, like it took forever. I saw it rock from side to side then, suddenly, it dipped and dived, nose first, with a huge explosion, into the ground. I knew immediately that no one could possibly have survived."

8:00 AM  
Anonymous there is no airplane. said...

the NTSB said there was a crash based on the evidence from their investigators,

oh the yellow jacket guys that we see in the photos! right. we can see how much debris they are recovering.

DNA from all the victims were found at the site,

right. according to conspiracy smasher the rest of plane vaporized entirely so no doubt they recovered DNA from and identified every passenger.


there was crash wreckage at the site, eyewitnesses to the crash site tell of massive debris.

oh right - that's what the guys in yellow jackets that we see in the photos are recovering!
didn't conspiracy smasher just get thru telling us that the entire plane except for the passengers was vaporized?


Oh, and the eyewitness to the crash as well:

my daughter insists that she was an eyewitness to a battle for supremacy between the toothfairy and the easter bunny.
she says it was a close fight but in the end the easter bunny prevailed!
are you guys calling my daughter a liar?
----
hey reno, you forgot to mention the official photo of the stupid little puff of smoke that was taken by the woman from her kitchen window - you know, the one that doesn't even line up properly between said window and the official stupid little campfire-like crash site!
----
give it up reno - we know that in reality you are aware that the official 9/11 fairytale doesn't hold even a single drop of water and that you really don't believe a word of it.

9:47 AM  
Blogger Conspiracy Smasher said...

So we've got crash debris, DNA from all of the passengers, an eyewitness to the crash itself, scores of NTSB and FBI agents at the scene, the emergency response folks from the town, the mayor....and they're all in on it? No wonder people laugh when you clowns start talking.

10:28 AM  
Anonymous renotarded said...

and they're all in on it?

all who? the 17 guys in yellow jackets?
maybe the county coroner is in on it too since he originally had this to say:
""I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop. I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there.""

conspiracy smasher, your credibility is nil. you assured us that "everything but the passengers was vaporized" but the official fairytale has it that tard93 plunged into the ground like a lawndart, burying itself entirely where no one could see any of it.
who is the liar; you or the official fairytale?

a real 757 engine

10:43 AM  
Anonymous jim said...

The plane can't bury itself into the ground AND all the passengers be instantly vaporized at the same time. Do you not understand how RIDICULOUS that sounds? (of course you do, but it is your job to ignore it)

10:55 AM  
Blogger Conspiracy Smasher said...

"maybe the county coroner is in on it too since he originally had this to say:
""I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop. I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there.""


I have already debunked your factoid earlier in this thread. Read and learn junior...

12:05 PM  
Blogger Conspiracy Smasher said...

"conspiracy smasher, your credibility is nil. you assured us that "everything but the passengers was vaporized"

I never said that. Please cite your source - if you have one...

12:08 PM  
Anonymous conspiracy smasher.com/tards said...

I have already debunked your factoid earlier in this thread. Read and learn junior...

you have debunked absolutely nothing old man!

conspiracy smasher said:
The plane hit the ground doing 575 miles per hour. The rest of the remains were vaporized on impact. But we did ID everyone onboard.

12:40 PM  
Blogger Conspiracy Smasher said...

"conspiracy smasher said:
The plane hit the ground doing 575 miles per hour. The rest of the remains were vaporized on impact. But we did ID everyone onboard."

Moron. I never said that, the coroner did. Learn how to read before you open your paranoid pie-hole...

12:51 PM  
Anonymous yellow jacket guy #4 said...

actually this is what the coroner said:

""I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop. I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there.""

hey everybody! make sure and focus on what old lady conspiracy smasher did or didn't say instead of where the fuck is all of the alleged debris from the alleged 757 that supposedly crashed into that stupid-ass campfire that is the official crash site!

12:57 PM  
Blogger Conspiracy Smasher said...

and THEN he said:

""It's all bullshit," says Miller. "I'm not saying I was misquoted, but the quote was taken out of context. There were pieces of people. Trust me. I cleaned it up. The plane hit the ground doing 575 miles per hour. The rest of the remains were vaporized on impact. But we did ID everyone onboard."

1:09 PM  
Anonymous yellow jacket guy #7 said...

don't forget to focus on what old lady conspiracy smasher did or didn't say instead of where the fuck is all of the alleged debris from the alleged 757 that supposedly crashed into that stupid-ass campfire that is the official crash site!

1:14 PM  
Anonymous yellow jacket guy #4 said...

hey how big is a 757 compared to that stupid campfire that we were told was the official flight93 (a 757!) crash site anyway? it's only this big!

hey we'd better wait until the "fire" (from all of the vaporization!) goes out before we recover all of the debris, right? absolutely!

better get the yellow jackets out #2! look at all the invisible debris we need to clean up!

"hey boss! yellow jacket guy #3 is interfering with my microscope!"

1:37 PM  
Anonymous jim said...

Conspiracy smasher is so transparent. He quotes others for his answers yet offers none for himself. You can say what you want about people on here, but at least they can THINK FOR THEMSELVES.

And read C-A-R-E-F-U-L-L-Y: "This is the most eerie thing," he told a Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reporter for an article on the first anniversary of the attacks. "I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop." In an article A YEAR AFTER THE FACT !

12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you always this wrong? The engine marks and wingspan impact are perfect for a 757.

Killtown told me so; but he is teasing and telling lies to everyone. Check out his ip address.

4:03 AM  
Anonymous yellow jacket guy #5 said...

there are no engine marks nor are there wingspan marks.

"ok boys - there must be a 757 around here somewhere!"

1:49 PM  

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