Gruesome
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This appears to be Washington St., south of the WTC, looking north towards Liberty St. You can see the base of WTC2 in the background.
But lots of bloody chunks here-- presumably people blown up from the WTC1 hit.
I feel compelled to point out the blue debris, when zoomed in, looks like a piece of fuselage matching the window area of an AA plane.
It's not clear if the south tower has been hit yet, but probably. The crazy thing is that this is a HUGE amount of debris to be blown from the exit side of the North tower, but it's hard also to see this being blown back from the entry side of the South tower.
posted by spooked at 10:29 PM
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Spooked said:
"I feel compelled to point out the blue debris, when zoomed in, looks like a piece of fuselage matching the window area of an AA plane."
If so, it was planted. (or blown there). It certainly wasn't from a plane crash in NYC.
bloody chunks, ya lots - but no shoes or pieces of clothing.
IMO, none of the photographs or videos from 9/11 should be trusted.
As far back as the JFK assassination, government agents have
altered and destroyed photos and film of the event.
Most people who know even a little bit about the case is aware of the
alteration of the Zapruder film, but the Towner film and the Hughes film both were returned to their owners by the FBI with damage to the films at exactly the same moments. This was done to make it impossible to see the reaction of JFK after the FIRST shot (which almost certainly came from the third floor of the Dal-Tex building).
Those two films are the only extant films which captured the first shot.
The FBI was the culprit then and may well also have had a hand in
confiscating/altering 9/11 photo and video images.
In Dallas, the FBI even went to every photo and film developer business to make sure they got most, if not all of the important photo and film evidence.
That may not have been practical on 9/11 - which probably explains why lower Manhattan was evacuated
prior to the demolition of WTC2.
I think the FBI has gotten an undeserved "pass" and that their role in the 9/11 operation AND the cover-up needs far more attention.
Nickname-- your points are well taken. But for some reason I feel like this picture is real, including the debris. There are other smaller airplane-ish pieces of debris here, and in the other pictures Cryptome has let out. It seems to me, either they planted a lot of debris (which I doubt) or there was a cache of debris in the tower that got blown out-- or some sort of plane did hit the tower. Frankly, I have always been much less confident about the first hit not involving a plane than the other three 9/11 crashes.
None of these works for the citizen, who pays them. Like everything. Why would they? They are beholden up, not down. A few $billion each (CIA=$60 billion, supposedly) Seems like the US could save a bundle if it were to behave.
- Office of Director of National Intelligence (head)
- Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
- Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) – National Security Branch
- Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) – Office of National Security Intelligence
- Department of Energy – Office of Intelligence and Counterintelligence
- Department of State – Bureau of Intelligence and Research
- Department of Treasury – Office of Intelligence and Analysis
- Coast Guard – Intelligence Programm
- Department of Homeland Security – Office of Intelligence and Analysis
- Defense Intelligence Agency
- National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
- National Reconnaissance Office
- National Security Agency
- Army Military Intelligence
- Naval Intelligence
- Air Force Intelligence
- Marine Corps Intelligence
But the first strike on TV was a video composite, had to be.
a cache of debris in the tower that got blown out
that is the most likely IMO.
Spooked,
When I said none of the visual images should be trusted, I meant that they should all be suspected of either being outright fakes or else a combination of reality, or composites, or reality with planted
evidence.
3:07 Anonymous might be right about the image above. I'm not sure, but it's certainly a plausible explanation, IMO.
The body parts (if that is indeed what they are) may be genuine, but
the plane part(s) were planted, IMO.
The perps of inside jobs like the JFK case and others seem to repeat
many of the same methods over and over. Event after event.
Ultimately, it does come down to the really strange pieces of evidence, like the wheel in the columns-- that makes no sense, and must be planted. So if that is planted, somehow, the other debris is probably planted. Unless they really really wanted to fuck with us by having a real plane crash and then planting debris. Or possibly there was a small, non-767 crash, and they planted debris more consistent with a 767. It's hard to know for sure.
It's like the south tower crash-- parts of it are so clearly, obviously bogus/wrong, yet other parts of the crash seem real or very hard to fake. Bottom line is that it's hard to know exactly how they did it.
Spooked said:
"So if that is planted, somehow, the other debris is probably planted."
What evidence or reasoning would you offer in support of that?
I say the evidence was planted and the other debris wasn't - although
I wouldn't rule out the entire photo as being a fake - or at least altered to add things that can be interpreted as being human flesh.
"So if that is planted, somehow, the other debris is probably planted."
I simply meant "planted" in a broad sense-- including a cache in the tower that was blown up, or photoshopped into the pic.
It seems unlikely they would plant plane debris if a real 767 crashed, as I said above. Though conceivably they could have done that, to fuck with us, I doubt it.
I haven't done a very good job of communicating my viewpoint, so let me try again.
No planes crashed, so there can be no legitimate evidence from a 767.
The alleged body parts may have been blown out into the street from explosions or they may be photoshopped into the picture. Either way, they aren't from any airplane passengers.
Since the alleged body parts are so relatively small and difficult to identify as being human flesh, they are probably genuine.
There were explosions & building collapses, and people did lose their lives.
The perps in charge of covering-up the truth and selling the OCT just couldn't resist adding some realism to the OCT by placing some airplane parts strategically...before the photo was snapped.
And of course... no civilian in lower Manhattan noticed NWO agents running around, placing bloody chunks of human flesh in the street....
Nickname--
since when are you such an adamant no-planer?
And of course... no civilian in lower Manhattan noticed NWO agents running around, placing bloody chunks of human flesh in the street....
hey chad is back!
for those of you that are unfamiliar with chad, he replaced sword of truth, who replaced conspiracy smasher as this blog's resident govt 9/11 fairytale cheerleader.
no civilian noticed NWO agents placing a wrong sized (not 767) jet engine on a sidewalk on church st. under a scaffold where it couldn't possibly have landed, either, yet there it was, all set-up for photos.
oh wait, who knows what any civilian really noticed or not.
also who is to say those are really bloody chunks of human flesh? it looks more like hamburger to me. where are the body parts? hands, heads, shoes, clothing, etc.
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