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Friday, June 04, 2010

Say What You Will About the US and Israel

At least the US isn't being hypocritical by supporting Israel:
One can express all sorts of outrage over the Obama administration's depressingly predictable defense of the Israelis, even at the cost of isolating ourselves from the rest of the world, but ultimately, on some level, wouldn't it have been even more indefensible -- or at least oozingly hypocritical -- if the U.S. had condemned Israel? After all, what did Israel do in this case that the U.S. hasn't routinely done and continues to do? As even our own military officials acknowledge, we're slaughtering an "amazing number" of innocent people at checkpoints in Afghanistan. We're routinely killing civilians in all sorts of imaginative ways in countless countries, including with drone strikes which a U.N. official just concluded are illegal. We're even targeting our own citizens for due-process-free assassination. We've been arming Israel and feeding them billions of dollars in aid and protecting them diplomatically as they (and we) have been doing things like this for decades. What's the Obama administration supposed to say about what Israel did: we condemn the killing of unarmed civilians? We decry these violations of international law? Even by typical standards of government hypocrisy, who in the U.S. Government could possibly say any of that with a straight face?


Also, good overview of the video evidence of the flotilla attack here.

13 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.rememberfallujah.org/

Remember Fallujah.

At least hundreds, if not thousands, were exterminated, and a city wiped out.

Where's the video?

9:39 AM  
Blogger nickname said...

Speaking of hypocrisy:

Spooked:

Just two months ago you said the following:

"the ten points are good How are they good spooked? I thought they were clear and obvious and I agreed with them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=283799&mesg_id=284615

Below is one of the ten points.

"The Z-film, as everyone knows, shows the President moving violently backward upon the last shot striking his head. This movement supports the idea that the fatal headshot came from the front—specifically, the area around the grassy knoll."

http://www.ctka.net/2009/ten_point_program.html


Isn't it hypocritical of you to agree w/"ap", who claims JFK was shot by Greer, who was inside the limo, not on the Grassy Knoll, and to also publicly state that you agree that JFK was shot from the GK?

Then, to compound it all, you have attacked me for pointing out the impossibility of "ap's" claim.

Please explain these three positions which make you look like a hypocrite.

10:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is impossible is for the American federal gestapo regime to not have its intel plant stop all his stupid lies here.

Bill McWIlliams implicated himself as an actor in the Kennedy Assassination itself and the cover-up (remasterminsidng the evidence). And then there is his "33 year career".

Then A.P. has included
1. the audio and video evidence
2. The video of Asst Press Secretary Kilduff showing Kennedy's entrance wound above the right eye, and given JFK's turn to Jackie, only the driver could have done that.
3. The many eyewitnesses who saw the driver do it, as told directly to author, Fred Newcomb

http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!7D!0A!3D7855A05297/Larry762/fontcolor3300FF/page4.html

4. These include:
1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.

2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee."

3. Austin P. Miller - Texas Louisiana Freight Bureau, who stood on the railway overpass overlooking Elm Street was asked by Arlen Spector where the shots came from: His reply was "from right there in the car." Senator Spector just went on to the next question, never asking Miller any specifics. From: Warren Report, New York Times edition, p. 82.

4. Clinton J. Hill. Jacqueline Kennedy's bodyguard reports in Vol. II, pp 138-139 of the Warren Commission Volumes: "I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, and ran to the presidential limousine. Just as I reached it, there was another sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object...it seemed to have some type of echo."

5. Hugh Betzner - Had picture published in Life magazine and was standing right next to the drivers side of the motorcade: He saw a gun in the hand of one of the secret service agents and heard a sound "like firecrackers going off in the car."Link to Betzner’s official statement: http://www.jfk-online.com/betzner.html Source: taped interview with Fred Newcomb.
6. Senator Ralph Yarborough - 3rd car back "Smelled gunpowder in the car."

And all there right on the Z-film, especially with the audio added which is available on youtube.

This is why I repeatedly ask for the simple deletion of all posts by this Gestapo agent.

His Op here is to lie and lie and lie and lie.

It is giving the gestapo agencies a forum for their lies.

This perp who has said he doesn't believe anything at this site, is here only to crap on it's attempt to have some truth on important issues.

Showing how the monsters that control humanity can't stand if even one human being knows the truth about important issues.

That this perp has learned here that he has been working for those who have the destruction of ALL Mankind, and he continues doing it, shows that he is either a frightened wimp, or one of those who agrees in killing all of Mankind.

10:40 AM  
Blogger nickname said...

Are you accusing spooked of being a hypocrite, or are you saying he
supports two different positions which are in contradiction to each other?

12:17 PM  
Blogger nickname said...

Give it up, ap.

Let Spooked speak for himself and
explain why he said he agrees that
the fatal head wound came from a bullet fired from the Grassy Knoll,
and why he also is on record saying he believes a different theory, and why that isn't being hypocritical.

I don't need an apology for his attacks on me for pointing out why your theory is impossible. I've always known I was right and that your adamant claim that JFK was fatally shot from within the limo, by the driver is nothing but bizarre ca ca.

It would be nice and speak well of your character if the two of you did at least admit you were wrong, but I won't lose any sleep if you
don't.

I do want to hear what Spooked has to say about the points I've raised, and I hope and trust that he'll respond very soon.

7:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S, please get rid of these two idiots.

7:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ap, you think every time you get
caught, it's someone elses's fault.

Man up, chump.

7:49 PM  
Blogger spooked said...

Nickname/BM--
I refuse to answer any question from you until you clarify your whereabouts and doings on 11.22.1963.

9:30 PM  
Blogger nickname said...

C'mon, Spooked. That's a BS excuse to avoid facing up to the fact that
your positions on the JFK case are
hypocritical.

Since you don't want to admit to being a hypocrite, no matter how many questions you demand that I answer, you'll never accept them as being enough.

You obviously never thought you'd get caught supporting the impossible claims of ap HERE, and
supporting an entirely different
theory on a forum where
you can't delete posts or thwart efforts of people who have the temerity to speak out against charlatans promoting Bullshift.

Your integrity is being tested every day. Some of us have pretty good qualifications in detecting
inconsistent stories. If you choose to support the nonsense of
someone who is as obviously peculiar as you know who, that's your business. It's the business of those of us who have and USE
critical THINKING and reasoning skills to expose fallacious arguments, no matter who propounds them.

The last time you expressed your position, you supported the position taken by nearly all of the world's serious JFK assassination analysts and researchers. Is that still your position today?

10:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Notice how our 75 year old gestapo boy ignored all the proof above, as well as his own involvement as Spooked noted:

So we repeat:

What is impossible is for the American federal gestapo regime to not have its intel plant stop all his stupid lies here.

Bill McWIlliams implicated himself as an actor in the Kennedy Assassination itself and the cover-up (remasterminsidng the evidence). And then there is his "33 year career".

Then A.P. has included
1. the audio and video evidence
2. The video of Asst Press Secretary Kilduff showing Kennedy's entrance wound above the right eye, and given JFK's turn to Jackie, only the driver could have done that.
3. The many eyewitnesses who saw the driver do it, as told directly to author, Fred Newcomb

http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!7D!0A!3D7855A05297/Larry762/fontcolor3300FF/page4.html

4. These include:
1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.

2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee."

3. Austin P. Miller - Texas Louisiana Freight Bureau, who stood on the railway overpass overlooking Elm Street was asked by Arlen Spector where the shots came from: His reply was "from right there in the car." Senator Spector just went on to the next question, never asking Miller any specifics. From: Warren Report, New York Times edition, p. 82.

4. Clinton J. Hill. Jacqueline Kennedy's bodyguard reports in Vol. II, pp 138-139 of the Warren Commission Volumes: "I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, and ran to the presidential limousine. Just as I reached it, there was another sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object...it seemed to have some type of echo."

5. Hugh Betzner - Had picture published in Life magazine and was standing right next to the drivers side of the motorcade: He saw a gun in the hand of one of the secret service agents and heard a sound "like firecrackers going off in the car."Link to Betzner’s official statement: http://www.jfk-online.com/betzner.html Source: taped interview with Fred Newcomb.
6. Senator Ralph Yarborough - 3rd car back "Smelled gunpowder in the car."

And all there right on the Z-film, especially with the audio added which is available on youtube.

This is why I repeatedly ask for the simple deletion of all posts by this Gestapo agent.

His Op here is to lie and lie and lie and lie.

It is giving the gestapo agencies a forum for their lies.

This perp who has said he doesn't believe anything at this site, is here only to crap on it's attempt to have some truth on important issues.

Showing how the monsters that control humanity can't stand if even one human being knows the truth about important issues.

That this perp has learned here that he has been working for those who have the destruction of ALL Mankind, and he continues doing it, shows that he is either a frightened wimp, or one of those who agrees in killing all of Mankind.

11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2008/07/remastermind-needs-to-reveal-his.html


http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!7D!0A!3D7855A05297/Larry762/fontcolor3300FF/page4.html

11:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You must be the only entity around
who doesn't know that not even Spooked believes your absurd, impossible claim.

8:30 AM  
Blogger spooked said...

Nickname-- your attacks on me and AP are clearly lame and desperate.

It speaks volumes that you can't answer reasonable questions about what you did on one of the most important days in our country's history, but instead you try to make a huge deal out of some trivial post I made about the JFK ass'n at DU.

For the record, I support the truth, which is that Greer fired the fatal headshot. I have said this many times on this blog. To try to find some little inconsistency in a general agreement I made to a JFK ass'n conspiracy again only speaks to how desperate you must be to cover up the truth.

This is my final request: tell us the truth about what you saw, heard and did on 11.22.63. You further need to reconcile the inconsistencies noted here:

http://covertoperations.blogspot.com/2008/07/remastermind-needs-to-reveal-his.html

If you cannot do this, I have no choice but to simply delete every single comment you make here.

8:51 AM  

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